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Thread: HM-38 120mm Mortar Squad is OP4 Oct 2021, 18:18 PM 120 mortars MUST be nerfed. Thats a point. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: HM-38 120mm Mortar Squad is OP30 Sep 2021, 14:52 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2021, 14:31 PMdonofsandiego Its survivability was already nerfed by removing a squad member specifically because it can retreat with only one entity left. The only issue it has is that if the reinforce cost really is 15 per man it needs to be increased (but Right. Aand you're saying to nerf the AoE soo??? What exactly was the point of bringing this up? The 120 mortar doesn't do more damage on direct hit than a normal mortar does. They both do 68hp on a direct hit. The only difference is the area of effect is bigger for the 120mm. Nerfing the AoE with nothing in return is not the way to go. Reinforce cost is supposed to be "unit cost divided by model count divided by two" making it 31mp. I think that at 31mp it would be pretty steep for a support weapon team but 15mp is definitely too cheap a reinforce for what the 120mm is. "Already nerfed" isnt argument. Cause it still unkillable. 120`s have no fear even from Panzerwerfers. About changing reinforce cost - one of the options, why not. Im not saying "to nerf AoE", liar. But "more damage" means on squad. So it could wipe with direct hit. Especially Axis team weapons - MGs, PaKs, Mortars. And it is really unbalance. If 120`s arent so OP as i say, why all meta-doctrines of soviet side has it? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: HM-38 120mm Mortar Squad is OP30 Sep 2021, 13:25 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2021, 11:27 AMvgfgff Yes I did a test before. leig shell are very accurate and its deal almost 50% damage to my squad when it direct hit(mostly is direct especially stationally unit). You should test 120 MM vs leig at maximum range by use barrage ability. Yeah, accuracy - really nice, but damage looks like leig using firecracker instead of shells. Also rate of fire not good enough to balance this funny damage. But we`ll speak about leigs in other topic. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: HM-38 120mm Mortar Squad is OP30 Sep 2021, 13:20 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2021, 12:06 PMdonofsandiego Dog the whole point of the 120mm is that it has a bigger AoE if you decrease the AoE it's literally just a slightly better mortar that costs more, is way less accurate, and doesn't get flares. Alright, then 120`s must be nerfed in survivability. It isnt good, when im flanking it with PGrens, throwing grenade (btw PGrens grenade "are so op") and after all start shooting in CQC. Meanwhile 120 mortar dont give a f...k about all of this, just retreats. Really? About accuracy - are u srsly? 120`s neednt it for one simple reason - AOE. Also we must bear in mind 4-5 men Axis squads. In: COH2 Balance

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