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I believe Kappatch 2 solved it with a simple received experience modifier for Schrecked up squads.

At the beginning , Sturms had double shrecks as upgrade and volks had Pzfausts + an "AI upgrade" (3 MP40s lol).

It worked out quite nicely (although the AI upgrade was kinda meh). It was really refreshing to play OKW without massive shreck blobs.

Reduce volks shreck damage to bazooka level,decrease upgrade cost slightly to compensate,that way still good vs light armor,but less so vs medium armor.Buff raketen.

This would make spamming shrecks even easier. A buff will make the Raketen better, no doubt about it, but I'm not sure whether I would want to build this unit.

Until I have AT vehicles on the field I could still rely heavily on shrecks.

To make the Raketenwerfer viable without adding Pzfausts you had to buff its aim time, its durability and also its reliability. Ground seems to be its enemy no 1.

The Raketenwerfer would be a unit worth spending MP on but you'd still see lots of shrecks running around, maybe even in blobs just as before.

Alternatively decrease volks XP gain rate and shreck long range accuracy(i.e vet accuracy bonuses don't apply for shreck)

These are all "soft" changes. Reduce XP gain? You'll see vet 5 volks 5 mins later.

Reduce long range accuracy? Only makes it even more unreliable vs early vehicles.

Seriously, the problem is that Volks have shrecks.

It's not their vet gain (every unit with AT weapons vets up fast), it's not the shreck itself, it's the fact that basic infantry can simply be upgraded with the most powerful handheld AT weapon in the game. Amazing vet bonuses are just the icing on the cake.

OKW needs "hard" changes like completely removing shrecks from volks and replacing it with something else, something that every other basic infantry unit gets (except Cons ): an AI upgrade + AT nades.

Well considering how hard it is to counter scout cars + flamers as it now for OKW if you want to make that even worse you could get rid of shreks.

That's why people say Volks should get Pzfausts.

Or how about give OKW more anti medium at options other than the Jadgpanzer which costs 265 fuel (due to reduced fuel income)

What about...getting a Puma? Needs more micro but still...

I totally agree. Double shreck upgrade for Sturms (Sturms should be able to buy both, sweepers and shrecks), Pzfaust and AI upgrade for Volks + aim time reduction for the raketenwerfer.

This is the best way to reduce shreck spam while keeping Volks relevant and also making the Raketenwerfer much more viable.

I really enjoyed playing Cruzz's Kappatch because he actually made exactly these changes.

The AI upgrade for Volks doesn't necessarily have to be a weapon upgrade though. Simply increasing their Kar98 DPS would be enough (for ammo ofc).

Suggest giving volks 1 STG and 2 MP40's or 2 STG's (not quite as good as sturmpios or panzergrens but better for mid range, as MP40 is almost only good at close range) rather than 3 MP40's.

I played a lot of games using this mod recently and I have to say that Volks probably don't even need any weapon upgrades.

They reached high vet levels relatively quick without any weapons. An upgrade that simply increases their DPS a bit is enough IMO.

Now, they will get shrecks again which is kinda sad. They won't vet up that fast and are a bit more expensive but you still have to rely on volks for AT instead of Raketenwerfers.

The only problem was that you couldn't buy sweepers in the early game and then later on shrecks. You could buy sweepers and while it was upgrading you could also buy shrecks so that you had both in the end. You just had to save 150MU

PZfausts also made the Raketenwerfer much more effective because you could place a Volks squad in front of it. Tanks that tried to rush the Raketen just got AT naded and were pretty much dead because of it.

StG = Sturmpioneers, G43 = Panzerfusiliers, LMG = Obersoldaten, high DPS = Obersoldaten again. Historically speaking, MP 40's are the best choice for Volksgrenadiers as they were used in large numbers by Volksgrenadier divisions.

What's your problem with having one weapon for two squads? G43s are doctrinal and I really don't mind having them as upgrade for Volks.

LMGs are not my favorite choice anyway but StGs wouldn't be such a bad idea, especially because Sturms will become AT squads later on.

I didn't say "high DPS" as in "up to Ober DPS", I said "increased DPS" (maybe up to Grens or slightly less).

Flamethrowers are the best choice IMO. OKW kinda lacks the ability to clear buildings and flamethrowers wouldn't make them too strong with higher vet levels.

Volks are indeed a bit crappy, thinking about what to do with them. The MP40 upgrade right now is a bit half-assed, it does do well against conscripts but that's about it.

MP40s are just the wrong weapon. Give them a flamethrower for 60MU and they are fine. You could also use the Volksgrenadier model again.