Profile of G4bb4_G4nd4lf

Stationary support weapons are kinda underused. Not only are they easily countered by off-map strikes and - if that wasn't enough - pretty expensive in terms of MP, the commanders aren't that great either.

So, how could relic improve their viability without actually buffing them?

Here's my idea:

Once you reach the needed CPs, your Pios/Engineers can build them WITHOUT crew for the MP cost of only the actual gun. That would be 360MP for one LeFH, for example.

The crew needs to be built at the HQ FIRST for the rest of the MP cost - 240MP in case of the ML-20/leFH. You can only have as many PAK43s/LeFHs/ML-20s as you have crews.

The crew can then operate the gun OR abandon it whenever you want (in case of an arty strike for example). The mechanic already exists ( see USF). You can't just re-crew them with, for example, Grens to abandon them again to get a free Gren squad. Only the buildable crew can re-crew those guns.

Stationary weapons could still be destroyed by Stuka Dive Bombs or Il-2 bombing runs instantly BUT (in case you saved the crew) your next howitzer will cost way less than they do ATM. And you keep the veterancy.

Whatcha think?

MP40s...yeah, I wouldn't even take those if they were free

Shrecks should be changed tho. Having those on a mainline infantry squad was a bad idea to begin with.

Instead of actually getting a shreck with 35 range, upgrading shrecks could unlock the ability to fire one rocket with 100% accuracy. Just like a PzFaust but with slightly longer activation range (like +5 range or something).

Once the squad reaches a certain vet rank, a new shreck ability could be unlocked that has the same range as the other shreck ability but deals less damage for a temporary or permanent engine crit (for ammo of course). Both shreck abilities would share the same cooldown to prevent double taps.

That would make Volks less efficient vs tanks by just A-moving and would reward the player with good accuracy if he manages to get within range.

As AI upgrade, an Ober model could replace one of the Volksgrenadiers. Having an Ober as veteran in the squad could unlock a new ability that buffs the squad's defense or offense for like 10 seconds or something).

For kubeljesuses' sake come on coh2 has to win

Urban Assault Doctrine all the way ! ! !

you and your data. i mean, since the OP is going solely off of feel, can't i do that as well?

Fair enough. I just thought I'd add some actual info instead of... well, what OP did

The Gren / PGren mechanized group should cost less fuel. The 250 is worth 20 fuel at most.