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Problem with OSTH 1v1 is how campy it gets. The entire game is about the USF forcing his way through a mega camp of MGs + ATs + Grens + Mortars. Even their P4s and eventual Tigers arent used as 'Tanks' rather much more semi-mobile immortal units of death, sitting behind passive camps that require MINIMAL micro.

- MG planted with arc covering sector, check
- AT gun just behind the MG covering the entry point, check
- Mortar behind the AT, bombarding any attempts to flip VP/Fuel/Ammo, check
- 1-2 Grens, now with LMGs, to rip charging/flanking infantry, along with insta engine hit fausts, check
- P4s or CP based Tiger/Panther, sitting behind it all, check

In any other RTS, you would be labelled a mega-trash newb for camping like 99% Osth players do in 1v1s. Just squat on 1 fuel/ammo/VP with 4 units, then send the blob to take the other. GG.

You lose cause youre bad, you win cause youre a camping git and the game isnt balanced - Fact

Whoops, i guess the moderators can shift the thread to its appropriate section

Also people, please feel free to add/critique etc.

The voting options arent clear, you shouldve asked:

1. Yes
2. No - needs a buff
3. No - needs further nerf

E.g. i would like to vote NO, but as '3' i.e. i think all heavy armor in COH2 needs further nerfing. Its absurd and stupid balance far in favor of Axis in all game modes.

Hi All,

I made a Balance feedback and just wanted to also make a 'TIPS' thread. As my win% shows, im not a pro by any measure, but there are various tips that ive learnt over the course of my first 100 games and hopefully this thread will help other new USF 1v1 players.

GENERAL TIPS:

- Know the maps. v/s both OKW/OSTH its key to deny them fuel while having enough fuel for yourself. To a lesser extend this is also true for Ammo. Most 2p maps will have 2 fuels and 2 ammo points. This is going to be the focus of your fights. Individual maps have key choke points or critical areas where eventually most fights land up - you must try and control these regions at all times. (I will make a map specific tip section in later posts maybe)

- Keep your squads together: Whether its Volks spam, or a Kubel with Strums or Grens with MG42s, your best chance of success is to ensure flanking with 2-3 Rifle squads during an engagement. Use garrisoning to buy time (remember Strums will eat up rifles inside a building and vice-versa i.e. holed up strums will eat up solo Rifles who are outside)

- Volks are great at long range, charge them down. Strums are great at close range, run away from them into cover or into firing range of another rifle squad. Against Grens its usually an even fight, so look for superior cover. Against Kubels, you need to flank, just as with any MG squad. (Running into a nearby building works well vs Kubels)

- Its easy to get trigger happy with early Grenades. They not only delay your FUEL-based tech, but theyre easy to avoid by decent players and will lead to Ammo shortage, which you desperately need for BARs/Zookas. Unless facing a MG spammer, using garrisoned MG42/34s avoid teching Grenades.

- Dont sit on idle resources, even if youre winning the early game (pre 10 mins), either the German player is rushing Med or heavy Armor. Prepare for it. Its best to start with a clear PROACTIVE strategy in mind, rather than react 1-2 mins after seeing what units the German player is throwing in.

- PROTECT YOUR VEHICLES AND SQUADS: Do not let them die easy. The key difference between fresh newbies and better players is how effectively they manage their investments. Make each vehicle count. Learn to use 'U' and reverse away from dangerous situations. That 2nd hit must be avoided!

BUILD PRIORITIES: This isnt a static 'Build Order', rather a tactical priority i.e. at any given point in a match you need to evaluate multitude of factors and decide what you should be building to best combat the situation.

V/S OKW

CORE STRAT: use AIRBORNE Command. Early 3 Rifle + 1 RE squad with a rushed Lieutenant and M20 should help you control the map. Then you want the Major out and rush Shermans. As the adage goes, this is the ideal core strategy, since most plans are blown away as soon as you make contact, try and follow this priority.

Why Airborne? The Strafe is needed to help negate later Heavy OKW Armor. The Airborne squads with Thompsons are your best Anti-Infantry v/s Obers or Fallschrims. When used with their special ability, they will rip up Obers and Falls, key is to send in a meat shield up front. The MG and AT drops reinforced with RE squads are an expensive but mobile way to help a remote point of the map in a pinch. (I rarely use them though, the AT gun is fairly trash)

FUEL PRIORITY:

- *Grenades: If the opponent is spamming MGs on a map with lots of key buildings on key points]

- Lieutenant: great Anti-Infantry. (Dont charge with them head first unless vs a solo squad, use them to flank and bring up the rear after charging with a Rifle or RE squad.)

- M20: many people advocate Half-Track, but maybe my micro isnt good enough, i just find by the time it comes out the OKW player has a Puma out or PSchreked Volks, both of which wreck the significant fuel investment.

Im still learning to best optimize the M20 mines, when placed well, they swing games since they do 1 shot German light/med vehicles and cripple the tanks.

Also, dont send them solo into multiple squads, they will get overwhelmed. Keep away from Volks with PSchreks (revolve around his squads like a madman).

Once youve made his squads retreat, rush to the farthest fuel point and take with your vehicle crew. You should do this for Fuel/Ammo/VPs throughout the game to pressure multiple points.

- Ambulance: On 2-4p maps, its critical to not cede map control by retreating all the way back to base. You need a forward point. Use the ambulance to repop your injured squads near the frontlines. (Ambulance needs to be stationary in a friendly territory). Once you have your Major, you send him near the Ambulance and use him as retreat point.

- *BARs/Bazookas+Captain: If you see the OKW T4 truck or a single Ober squad, you need to get BARs. If you see a Puma or a Luch you need to cancel your Major (if u can) and instead tech for Zookas and Captain ASAP. While Zookas are nowhere near as effective as PSchreks, they still do very well vs Light/Med German Armor. Forget the Major/Shermans and win the game with Rifles + Airborne, at least half the squads with Zookas and your Captain.

Only if the game still drags on do you need the eventual Major, since the OKW even with fuel denied will eventually get off-map Heavy Tanks. You need your shermans/jacksons then.

- Major: You need him for the Shermans, and use him as a forward retreat point.

- Shermans: Your core fuel dump. DO NOT rambo in solo. OKW will certainly have Volks+PSchreks, AT Guns and a Panther/P4 around the corner. If youve played a good game, your first Sherman will hit the field at about the 12 min mark.

AMMO PRIORITY:

- *Grenades (Try and avoid unless OKW spamming MGs into buildings)
- M20 Armor skirts and Mine
- Thomsons
- *BARs (if T4 truck spotted/Obers)
- Sherman .50 Cal
- Strafe run

TLDR:
- 3 Rifle, 1 REch, 1 Lt, 1 M20, 2 Airborne (Thompsons if v/s Obers or Fallschrims), Ambulance, Major with Shermans is your ideal army
- Fuel Priority is Lt-M20-Ambulance-Major-Shermans. Bazookas+Captain only IF early Puma/Luch. BARs to be added late game OR pre-Major if early Obers or if you DONT have Airborn+Thoms.
- Add 1 Fuel and 1 Ammo cache if you have the early advantage. Airborne strafe costs 240! ammo and is needed to deal with OKW Heavy Armor Panthers/Tigers.

Next post, v/s OSTHEER.

Have you tried using Rifle AT grenade on any German med vehicle good sir?