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When it is a 222 scout car versus a M8 Greyhound.

In testing, a stock 222 beats a Greyhound every time. If you spend the 70 munitions to upgrade to armor skirts, the Greyhound barely beats the 222.

Adding to the imbalance, the Greyhound has 7 popcap versus 5 for the 222, so the cost differential grows by 3 per minute. It used to be somewhat okay back when canister shot was good, but now it does nothing, while still costing 50 munitions.

The standard sight on the armored cars is the same, but 30 munitions gives the 222 nearly double the sight range, so much it looks almost like a map hack.

This is only one of the problems with the Recon Company.
*forward observers are bugged
*IR pathfinders can drop arty at only about 1/2 of their sight range, so it can be difficult to use their arty without getting sighted.
*recon sweep costs 10 munitions more than a major's recon, while only having marginally better flexibility
*Airdropped Combat Group costs 900 mp, which makes it useless in a 1v1. Dropping the group with an AT gun isn't a plus if you want to use it strategically, as you will likely give your opponent an AT gun. While it sucks versus OKW or OST, it is not so bad against USF with their paper-thin armor. Also, having a paratrooper squad drop with bazooka's isn't really a plus.

I've seen mine-demo charge combos, and mines 1-hitting a near death IS-2, but has anyone ever mined dropped weapons and/or behind or in front of abandoned tanks?

Also, does anyone ever actually dig in and hold the line using Infantry Company Riflemen Defenses and Fighting Position Spam? It sounds effective if you want to do a Sherman spam.

The mine-demo is pretty good.

I've never seen anyone successfully spam fighting positions. They're good for the first engagement (see Lemon's guide to USF), but suck after that. One of the problems is that AT weapons like PAK's do full damage, as if a machine gun nest is the same as a tank. In short, they have a life span of about 6 seconds starting when a PAK takes its first shot. They'd be much better if the hit size was tiny for direct fire weapons.

Also, any grenade thrown into a fighting position will wipe whatever squad is inside.

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No it doesnt. The kill radius of infantry for the ml-20 was almost halved. It was like 5.4 meters, now its 3.1 meters.


In comparison , the kill radius of the LEfh is 4 meters.


So even with 200 damage, ml-20 will still be less lethal againts infantry because of less fired sheels, less AOE, and slower rate of fire.

The ML-20 was one of the cases where Relic messed up.

ML 20 152 Artillery
We want to encourage the use of the ML20 which was previously underperforming.

Salvos increased from 4 to 8
Removed precision strike at veterancy 1
Veterancy 1 now increases the number of salvos of the ML 20 by 2 (10 Total)


It wasn't underperforming. It was rarely built because Relic made the poor decision to give a badly OP Close Air Support commander to everyone, which made on-field arty useless. I'd take the old one back in a second.

Reducing the explosion radius was a really poor decision. It used to be great blob control when you could build it. Now it isn't. With this group of strange buffs and nerfs, the Soviets have a unit that costs 600mp and doesn't do anything well. Buffing the damage back to 200 won't do much for it as long as the blast radius is so small.

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