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Thread: High level Knowledge on Balance - tournament 18 Jan 2022, 12:22 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2022, 08:17 AMVipper And that is one reason why one should use a "benchmark" faction where it remain relatively at the same power level and the other faction adjust accordingly. That is what OH would be in this scenario. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: High level Knowledge on Balance - tournament 17 Jan 2022, 16:20 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2022, 15:37 PMEsxile @Devm Thanks for your input Can you elaborate a bit more? The reason the OKW match up can be harder than the OH one is because OKW can pair up against USF quite well in the early game, I would even give the edge to OKW. Volks are cheaper and trade well with riflemen except at close range but many times that close range doesn't matter as much if you have an extra volk squad, adding on that the sturmpio is present which can help scare away riflemen squads from closing in the distance on the volks which keeps volks at their optimal range in the match up. Then there's the fact that OKW also doesn't really struggle mid game versus USF, if you go mechanized you shut down any LV play from USF pretty well, if you go battlegroup the only way the USF player has to kill your flak HT is to dive in with the stuart which is dodgy at best and at the same time because the fuel costs for the flak HT are pretty cheap meaning that the OKW P4 will often match the USF sherman timing (and we know which one wins the match up), then there's tiny details like USF needing to backtech to get AT guns which means minutes in the field of having a sherman vs P4 match up and the AT guns themselves being munitions reliant to pen the OKW P4 more often than not, then again the same problem of dealing with the rakketens because of the lack of an artillery. Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2022, 15:54 PMrumartinez89 DevM, thanks for the well thought out reply. It does get kind of old watching the same thing over and over in. Any small changes that you think could help even things out? It's hard to say, I think in order to fix it you would need to change a lot because when you change something you need to consider all the match ups, as an example I believe USF's problem is riflemen weighting down the faction late game, I would probably change the curve to be a bit weaker early game but scale better as the game proceeds, this would help versus the OH match up. This in turn would make USF completely die to OKW since they ALREADY have an early edge versus USF, so then you would have to change volks, I would probably make them more costly to build. But then you would need to adjust the OKW vs UKF match up which OKW historically already struggles etc etc. It wouldn't be an easy fix but it could be fixable. It would just needed to be adjusted step by step which considering how late we are in the game lifecycle it's just not doable. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: High level Knowledge on Balance - tournament 17 Jan 2022, 14:28 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2022, 10:49 AMEsxile In tournanment we always see the same match up, Ostheer vs Soviet and this meta goes around since quite some time when Ostheer was still top pick with OPstruppen vs USF OPijeep and at that time it was clearly obvious why anyone would pick them. From Those TOP tournament players perspective, what's the reason of the current sitation or more specifically: Excluding the usual answer, Soviet is better/Ostheer is better... Today, How and why do you think Ostheer is superior to USF so you rather avoid picking the later in tournament. How and why do you think Ostheer is superior to UKF so you rather avoid picking the later in tournament. How and why do you think Soviet is superior to OKW so you rather avoid picking the later in tournament. In the past even if Soviet could be better than USF or UKF, that didn't stopped top players to play with different factions even if their favorite was slighly less capable than another. Today Tournament organizers have to impose rotations so we get to see more variety. Another point that make me think about it is the variety of commanders pick. We're not facing the same scenario OPstruppen vs OPijeep anymore, Top players are using a rather large variety of commanders so is it possible that even with a similar variety of commanders others factions can't cope with Ostheer and Soviet? There isn't a single commander in USF/UKF/OKW that make it for competing at high level with their counterparts? How and why do you think Ostheer is superior to USF so you rather avoid picking the later in tournament. It's not that USF is unplayable in tournaments but its more risky, USF NEEDS to either snowball the game or get a good enough advantage so that when they enter the mid to late game stage they can close out the game efficiently thus avoiding having to break the tough OH meta of double MG/Double Pak/Double P4/Vetted LMG grens, which without good indirect fire and with riflemen progressively fairing worse is very hard to beat. Then you compare this to the soviets that can have almost equally impressive early games, a stable mid-game and a late game that equals the OH one and you have got your answer on why players fallback into this pick. On top of all this USF also struggles versus OKW even more, meaning that if you pick USF first its not even garanteed you will get OH on the other side and just to add more fuel to the fire soviets absolutely destroy OKW. How and why do you think Ostheer is superior to UKF so you rather avoid picking the later in tournament. UKF has this big problem dealing with the OH sniper and at a top level almost everyone can use the sniper to a good level of proficiency, adding on top of this even if you aren't a sniper player the UKF mid-game still suffers against the current OH meta of double P4 with double Pak just because the P4 is in many situations better than the cromwell especially as they vet up, so not only do you risk straight up losing the game as early as the OH sniper gets out but you also don't have any clear point in which you are better than the OH (assuming he doesn't screw up) How and why do you think Soviet is superior to OKW so you rather avoid picking the later in tournament. They can actually sustain the early aggression of OKW and in many cases even win the early game because the sturmpio at a high level and in most maps can get singled out (not doing anything because its a close range unit and the soviet player not letting it get to his most effective range). Not only that but the soviet mid game versus OKW is also very solid with zis-guns/T70/dhsk or maxim which makes it impossible to close out a game efficiently and finally the cherry on top is that soviets absolutely destroy OKW late game, they have answers for everything. Rakketens? Katyusha, vet 5 volks? 7 man cons, MG? Zis-barrage or katyusha, P4 or Panther? double zis-gun and/or SU-85 and/or t34 Ram ability and/or 34-85s which pair up nicely against them. You get the point In: COH2 Balance
Thread: My real problem with COH315 Dec 2021, 11:04 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Dec 2021, 04:30 AMKurobane COH 2 has the same UI on live as it did during its Pre-Alpha period. That is not an excuse. Pretty sure when CoH2 was first shown it was already in alpha and not pre-alpha, there's a pretty big difference and looking back the UI has indeed changed since then you could look at the frontline network casts for that. Either way every criticism is of course valid I just wouldn't worry too much at this stage. In: Lobby
Thread: Soviet September patch discussion18 Aug 2019, 21:27 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 21:15 PMgbem The last 1v1 tourney ive seen mostly involved penals openings though... thats not to say conscript openings are useless... but they are generally disadvantaged against the more cost efficient volksgrenadier... or even wehrmacht unless they outclass their opponent... They can be used to great effect but its more of an uphill battle as opposed to a penal opener... especially when everyone gets their weapon upgrades while you dont get yours until T4... Hence the switch to T3 is good for the nonmeta builds (stock cons/t2)... all thats really needed now is to tone down the core of the meta build to compensate (penals) The last 1v1 tourney you saw mostly involved penal openings because it was literally the only thing that worked against OKW due to the M3. Things are fine as they are right now, cons and penals are both in a nice spot imo. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Hans expert AI challenge2 May 2019, 10:54 AM Jump back to quoted post2 May 2019, 10:35 AMProDigyIgi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9weOEXTSUz0 Why are you posting a game of kimbo? In: Replays
Thread: Hans expert AI challenge2 May 2019, 10:33 AM Jump back to quoted post2 May 2019, 04:39 AMKIMBO MAD SLICE Since you got trashed by hans in gcs 2 live event, i doubt u could do better than him if u had even circumstances. In: Replays
Thread: Hans expert AI challenge1 May 2019, 22:30 PM 2 experts AI, I did it Hans! In: Replays
Thread: California Classic 3 signups26 Mar 2019, 14:44 PM Steam: Insane DevM 76561198033358998 Discord: DevM In: Events Central
Thread: California Classic 2 signups.22 Mar 2019, 01:00 AM Steam: Insane DevM 76561198033358998 Discord: DevM In: Events Central