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Thread: Undo Soviet T3 before T4 requirement11 Aug 2015, 04:47 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2015, 04:41 AMBasilone @Festive what ways did Soviet tech become less restrictive? To me it feels more restrictive with T3 units coming every game and T4 units being used less. Are you are talking about a shift away from the T34/85 call-in meta? Since nobody rushes Ost T4 I think improving it would be better than using that as a reason for the Sov T3 requirement. Obviously its more restrictive now. But I still play into t34/85 esp vs OKW. But now I can get a single 85 while previously i had 2 of them at that moment. And I have lees units on the way to 85. In general its easier vs OKW. You can skip T1 there. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Undo Soviet T3 before T4 requirement11 Aug 2015, 04:38 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2015, 01:58 AMFestiveLongJohns you can still get your non doctrinal medium out faster than ostheer if you choose not to build any units out of T3. at the end can you agree you wasnt right there? 1. OH can get callin medium faster in all games even in theory. 2. OH can get non callin medium faster all games in reality. Faster means a lot faster I think. Cuz its not possible to play only T2 units into T4. And you have to spend fuel into 1 t70 at least. And in the begining germ T1 > sov T2. Dont forget about germ opening +1 unit advantage. Plus anyone forgeting that cons' 2 grenades upgrades cost 25 fuel each. OH costs nothing it come with BF1. its not important calllin or non callin. What important is unit type. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Undo Soviet T3 before T4 requirement11 Aug 2015, 03:34 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2015, 03:25 AMFestiveLongJohns Also, no one builds both T1 and T2 as soviets unless you are playing completely for call ins, which isn't really viable this patch. The tech costs I provided are how most games play out. Sure there are niche tactics that might work if you outplay your opponent, but for the most part soviets go either T1 or T2, then T3 and T4, while ostheer goes T1, T2, and T3. Again maybe you know better about T1 skip. But dont say "no one". For example Sprice have only 1 opening for sovs. Sniper - 3 infantry - ZIS. After that he can do some diferent things. I m starting to repeat but what you do vs sniper without T1 on langres? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Undo Soviet T3 before T4 requirement11 Aug 2015, 03:15 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2015, 03:01 AMFestiveLongJohns Really, you're going to call BS without actually doing the work? Well here you go: Soviets start with 50 fuel. T2 Cost: 50 Fuel T3 Cost: 80 FUel T4 Cost: 90 Fuel T34 Cost: 80 Fuel Total cost to T34 minus initial fuel: 250 fuel Ostheer start with 20 fuel T1 cost: 10 Fuel BP 1 cost: 40 fuel T2 cost: 20 Fuel BP 2 cost: 45 Fuel T3 cost: 75 Fuel P4 cost: 125 Fuel Total cost to P4 minus initial fuel: 295 fuel IDK why you skip few facts 1. medium doesnt mean P4. Stug g is cheaper and its medium 2. OH can get 1st medium as call in. Which require zero invstment and at this stage its like a cheating maybe (not sure). 3. you skiped sov T1 which means playing with disadvantage (maybe you know better about T1 skip) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Undo Soviet T3 before T4 requirement11 Aug 2015, 02:53 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2015, 02:46 AMmiragefla T2 can hold its own until you can get T3 and it's probably the most chosen as it provides MGs, mortars and most of all, ATGs. Soviet don't need snipers, M3s, or penals. They can even just get a large groups of cons to hold on, buy either T1 or T2 depending how they feel then build the T3 right after. What if they get sniper as a 1st unit then? I saw lots of top 1v1s when germs sniper rampages on open maps WHOLE GAME not only in the begining. My sov sniper ussualy get a 20-45 kills per game. And kind of a soft counter to germ sniper. Sprice for example always start with a sniper with any fraction. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Undo Soviet T3 before T4 requirement11 Aug 2015, 02:38 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2015, 01:58 AMFestiveLongJohns you can still get your non doctrinal medium out faster than ostheer if you choose not to build any units out of T3. most likely you didnt count anything before posting that. Obviously its vice versa. Plus currently if you dont win fast (which is rare) you cant skip anything. T1 and T2 are both must have. T1 can only be skipped on maps semosky and laglez (if I remember their names). T2 can never be skipped cuz there is no alternative to 1 ZIS in mid game and double ZIS in late. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Su-76 no longer needs free barrage?11 Aug 2015, 02:13 AM SU 76 doesnt scale into late game like at all. ATGs, AT infantry and all mediums wipe the floor with SU76. Whatever they do with this bad unit is irrelevant for me. Allow to skip T3. Double ATG and double sniper into 85s. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Undo Soviet T3 before T4 requirement10 Aug 2015, 23:56 PM absolutely. Do it. T4 after any 2 tech buildings. Was asking for the same http://www.coh2.org/topic/37081/enable-soviets-to-skip-t3 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: LeFH damage buff at vet 1? (better against vehicles)9 Aug 2015, 22:32 PM ML20 firing a lot slower. Thats a huge setback. They just go away after 1st esplosion. Even ATGs and MGS can safely pack and go away. I dont see ML20 use now. Only kill a truck, but thats too expensive for that purpose. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Oshteer is so weak in 1v18 Aug 2015, 22:42 PM curently one must be kind of idiot to lose as germs to equal skill player. They have advantage in both numbers and unit power right from the starting minute of the game. In: Ostheer Strategies