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Thread: So uhm, how do you even counter this?12 Jul 2016, 19:45 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2016, 12:57 PMDangerous-Cloth THe panzer werfer will get insta destroyed by counter battery.. It reks it in one salvo lol Sadly, heavy learn 2 play issue detected. Counter Battery is a 45 second ability on a 90 second cool down, first of all, after the nerf. Panzerwerfer's are bar none, the most mobile rocket artillery in the game. They fire their salvo the fastest, and they are the fastest vehicle with the rockets mounted to them. Drive up, launch salvo, Hit R (or whatever button your key assignments have for the Reverse order) and click a couple 100 yards behind your Panzerwerfer. Done deal, there is no way in hell Counter Battery will hit your Panzerwerfer. In: Ostheer Strategies
Thread: Pak 4311 Jul 2016, 05:21 AM Sure, we can remove the shoot through building mechanic. After indirect fire weapons get nerfed into the ground. Otherwise? Yeah, screw that noise. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 17lbr to 14 Population10 Jul 2016, 06:07 AM It's non-doctrinal. There is absolutely no reason to decrease its population or cost relative to the PaK43, when the PaK43 is far easier to destroy, and requires a doctrine. There is no comparison. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer Build Orders3 Jul 2016, 16:20 PM My current go-to is MG-Gren-Gren-Mortar/tech/222 if lots of team weapons, half-track if more infantry, PaK/tech/Whatever suits the current situation best. This BO has helped me tremendously vs the British, as I've found going 3x Gren vs them to be largely ineffective due to their similar early MG play, and infantry that are better in cover, which is where the majority of early fights happen. The German mortar, while not being an OP hand-holding laughable excuse of a unit, is easily the 2nd best standard mortar in the game. It will regularly take out 2-3 Infantry Section members in cover with a single shell, and makes it very uncomfortable for the British to meaningfully defend early without an aggressive emplacement. In: Ostheer Strategies
Thread: Counter to OH camping?3 Jul 2016, 15:57 PM Wow. Apparently holding your territory in a territorial control based game is now "camping." Please go back to Call of Duty or whatever FPS you came from. In: Red Army Strategies
Thread: Change Steam Icon for CoH214 Jul 2015, 20:11 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 11:38 AMUberHanz If you really believe that legality equals legitimacy, then you are absolutely right with your initial denial of my point of view. I was simply informing you on why the Hammer and Sickle is present in games like this and the Swastika isn't from a legal standpoint, minus all the political BS and dramatic trappings. By all means, argue about legality vs legitimacy, but the fact of the matter is Relic and other companies that make games like this are only going to base their decisions on the laws that apply to them, in the countries they wish to release their game within. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Side Armor Bounces13 Jul 2015, 23:08 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 22:55 PMGoldeneale I agree that it would be awesome to have side armor in this game, but unfortunately it would require an entire reworking of the ballistics and penetration calculations to fit it in. Penetration would have to take angle into account, otherwise one could hit side armor from the front and get reliable penetrations at an extreme angle. We couldn't just compare locations of the two tanks either, since there's scatter and tanks tend to move a lot during combat, so they'd have to write a script to calculate the angle between the shell and the armor. I'm sorry, but I really don't agree with this. Angle, penetration calculations, none of those would be required for a decent side armor system. We currently have two things in game. 1. Front armor. Chances of bounces or regular damage on hit. 2. Rear armor. Bonus damage, negligible chance of bounces (if any?). The idea that we would need new angle calculations, penetration calculations, I think is a farce. All that realistically would need to be done is add a third armor check. 3. Side. NO bonus damage, but negligible chance of bounce. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Side Armor Bounces13 Jul 2015, 22:09 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 21:59 PM5trategos 1. The current model doesn't take direction into account, so a cone would not change anything unless I missed something. 2. If I was in charge of Relic, I would not want to spend money redesigning the damage model at this point knowing full well I would have to spend even more further down the road to balance it. I would save that for another game. 1. In my mind, it would make the Sherman that is directly on the Tiger's flank much more likely to be actually making flanking shots, then somehow hitting "front armor" when it is perpendicular on the side of the Tiger. 2. I'm not sure how this would be a redesigning of the damage model. It would simply be shifting the "If/When" check that is made when a shell hits the armor forward, so that it more accurately actually represents shells striking the frontal armor, rather then shells striking the side of the tank being considered striking the front of it. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Side Armor Bounces13 Jul 2015, 21:46 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 21:42 PM5trategos Actually no. It's not about where your tank is in relation to the enemy tank but about where the shot lands. You can be 10 degrees off the front of the tank and land a rear shot because the shell hits the back half of the tank. Remember, there's a scatter value. Your tank doesn't shoot at the center of its target. Why do you keep bringing up armor thickness then? You may not want a rear shot to bounce but that has nothing to do with how the game is coded. The Panther has 320.0 frontal armor and 110.0 rear armor. T34 has 120.0/100.0/80.0, near/mid/far penetration values. The chance to penetrate the rear armor is 120/110, 100/110, 80/110 at their respective range. Those are pretty good chances. But remember that unless you're facing the Panther squarely in the rear, your shot can actually end up hitting the front half of the tank which would yield much lower penetration values. Ok this makes more sense. I keep bringing up armor values simply because I can't help it. I know this isn't a simulation, but I can't help but get irked when a 76mm shell hits appears to hit 45mm's of armor and magically bounces off. I realize they don't have those values in game, but the psuedo-historian in me can't help but identify it. If I understand you now correctly, that shell placement is the factor and not tank positioning, my same idea would still work to provide more consistent flanking rewarding, and prevent strange side bounces. I don't see any real problem making it a cone instead of 2 uniform boxes. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Change Steam Icon for CoH213 Jul 2015, 21:40 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2015, 19:45 PMUberHanz Thx for your answer. I already assumed the impossibility of this little dream, asking the community was my last hope. Though I was rather joking by stating political reasons, I now realize that showing the Stalinist era hammer & sickle is actually EXACTLY as problematic like depicting the swastica. The essential difference is between winning and loosing a war, and a German weakness for perfect organization. Now I am offended! Nope. The only reason the Hammer and Sickle is present in game and the Swastika is not is due to legal issues in places that this game is bought and sold. The Hammer and Sickle is not an illegal symbol in the nations that this game is available for download/purchase. There are a few eastern European nations that do have restrictions on the Hammer and Sickle, but they are vastly few and far between compared to the limitations on Swastika's. In: COH2 Gameplay