I cant wait for this. Its kinda like the glory days of C&C reborn |
As to Jochen Peiper, there is a fairly recent biographical dissertation (2014) on him from Jens Westemeier which I would urge reading. A few things:
Peiper was in deep with the Nazi hierarchy, he had been Himmlers adjutant and had explicit knowledge of Aktion T4 and later the Shoah. Heck, his own brother was very likely murdered in T4 but that seems not to have overly disturbed him, and I could go on here. While he has gained some notoriety for Malmedy, where, while having command responsibility, he quite likely did not play any direct role btw, he demonstrably had PoWs murdered in cold blood by the hundreds as a matter of policy over several months on the Eastern Front, to the point where that alarmed his own peers and superiors. To cut a very long story short, Peiper was a very disturbing character even by the standards of the SS....
As for his leadership and tactical qualification, he undoubtedly eventually became a skilled SPW bataillon leader, gaining a number of significant successes especially with night attacks on the Eastern Front. However, when he assumed command of the Leibstandarte tank regiment, his limitations became obvious as he had no experience or training in handling tank formations and reputedly proved little tactical adroit. In consequence, lossess soared to completely unacceptable levels, making him quite unpopular with both his men and his fellow commanders.
I read that. I agree with the assessment that he was in fact a disturbed individual (Dare I propose on the brink of having been incoherently brainwashed?). However, I think he was a brilliant small unit tactics. His rescue of the 320th Infantry Division an example of such. I disagree with him not handling his Tank regiment well for it was decimated on the Western Front while he was suffering from a mental breakdown (Shell Shock? though they diagnosed it as something else). After its decimation he was left with a Kampfgruppen not a Regiment and thus operated successfully (to a degree) before eventually being stalled during December '44. He was unpopular with Wehr Officers maybe but his men loved him and so did fellow SS officers.....Himmler was great friends with him. |
I got in But I feel like it will be a let down just as much as WFA Alpha was ....... all those changes last minute |
I have Spaeter's materials on BR and have other things that touch upon them. There may be discrepencies. The BR's role declined as Germany's offensive stance went to defensive. Opportunities for spec. ops and recon dried up significantly. In 43' the BR units were expanded and a mot. Infantry division was spun off- making most BR men effectively conventional troops.
Then there was the SS coup of the Spec ops arm and the fall of Abwehr, which lead to the 'GD' taking over the BR, and merging them into PanzerKorps 'GD' as a PzG Division in late 44'.
Correct, the role switched as the Offical BR Regiment was turned into a Infantry Division. I simply stated that the Orignally trained Spec Op BR's (Men Themselves) joined the SS Spec Ops (Units that worked with Skorzeny etc.) and these continued to operate as Spec Ops units till the end of the war. |
|
The Brandenburgers were gradually reverted to traditional roles though, after 42'. Not sure what you are referring to specifically.
How is Model seen in Germany?
BrandenBurgers were actually not reverted. The unit itself was created into a Panzer Grenadier Division and most of the Brandenburger's themselves quit and got themselves reassigned to SS Special Forces (Skorzeny and the 500/600 SS Falls etc...) but I cant give more information about that because the German Special Forces is an upcoming Theater Of History |
I haven't heard of that but it doesn't surprise me. Model's breaking up of units, right-sizing, and customizing is what gave him the massive defensive victory at Rzhev during Op Mars. He sees a unit, and ignores the "label".
To an extent it made sense. But to his use of Brandenburgers on the front lines is like using SAS/Navy Seals as cooks for an Infantry Division lol. Had he used them in their intended roll his results could have been more significant. |
Anyways, Eichewas commanded on the ground by Olt. von Berlepsch of 1./FJR. 7 (aka FJ Lehr) and conceived of by Maj. Mors of the very same outfit, who did not take any orders from Skorzeny, and neither did his men. Skorzeny whacked the Italian radio operator in the face and then proceeded to thrash the wireless set - which was quite unnecessary - but that was it. Of the 88 men who participated in the raid, 70 were FJ, just 18 SS, and virtually all of the latter had very little in the way of combat training/experience and would have been of little help if Mussolinis captors had had more of a fight in them, in fact, Skorzenys' gloryhounding jeopardised the entire operation...
Be that as it may, the almost simultaneous capture of the Italian army HQ was a much more impressive undertaking in evey respect, but has been overshadowed by Eiche to this day.
The details are not in question. You had stated that Skorzeny played no pivitol role. I disagree. He was selected personally by Hitler and Ernst Kaltenbrunner to carry out the mission, for he was the one that tracked and located Mussolini. Skorzeny was in command of 18 SS commandos ( Whome were better trained that the Falls that accompanied them ). As for smashing the Radio? That is a tactic to disallow any form of communication. Furthermore Skorzeny was the one to bring General Fernando Soleti of Polizia along and got the Italians to surrender without much of a fight. Skorzeny may have been full of himself (Getting into the plane was stupid) but he was in fact a key figure in the raid. Sadly He got ALL the credit just because Hitler loved him and he was SS.
POINT: Skorzeny was a brilliant man and Spec Ops Leader. He may not have planned the Rescue op but his Actions prior (Intel Gathering) and During (General Fernando Soleti of Polizia) contributed largly to the success. |
Skorzeny had no leadership role whatsoever, he played a minor role in the intelligence gathering leading up to Unternehmen Eiche. Operational command was with von Berlepsch/Mors of the FJ Lehr.
Skorzeny was a shameless self-promoter of the highest order, which by the way nearly got Mussolini and himself killed when he insisted to accompany the former in the Storch. Nota bene, this is however not to imply he was a fraud, or not a legitimate operative in his own right.
You are incorrect. Skorzeny was in fact the Lead of the Airborne drop for the rescue. He also was incharge of the SS Fall Battalions that landed on Tito's HQ for the only SS Falls Battalions were given to him to command spec ops. He was a personal friend of Hitler and even lead the forces into Hungry that put down the "Rebellion" to surrender to the Russians. Please get your facts right next time mate. |
Model's command of 3.Pz (1941)was just as good as Rommel with the 7.Pz (1940). As army commander, his method was to tour the front at personal risk to himself and make radical adjustments (making spec ops combat groups) to improve efficiency. He would also break apart formations entirely, and make situation-tailored battlegroups.
Basically all this activity weakened his units offensively but it improved the situation defensively. Manstein, on the other hand, was weaker in the defense but more offense oriented and would not break mobile reserves or strong units up like Model did.
His use of Spec Ops troops (Brandenburgers) in a combat role turned him off for me. Intel is the name of the game in warfare and to use units that specialize in Intel/sabotage/behind enemy lines operations for another purpose is a waste of resources and it drains the pool in which to choose from if spec ops are needed. Just my thoughts. |