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are we talking about the us regular sherman, the 105mm sherman, the soviet sherman, or the sherman e8.

It sounds like the Op was talking about the rifle company with the E8 sherman.

Based on OP's 9CP comment and the other comments about the DshK I assume we're talking about Soviet call in M4C Shermans from the Lend Lease Tactics commander.


I don't really understand what the problem. Porygon and others have pointed to T2 Pak40 as the answer to Soviet medium armor and no one seems to be contradicting the idea – just ignoring it. Why on earth would one expect panzershreks to effectively counter medium tanks without an AT gun or tank destroyer helping?

3x rifles -> ambulance -> capt -> flak HT -> gg -> best strat so far for USA vs OKW

edit - Seriously unsure. Am I missing something? Is there a Commander call in HT?

Got a replay demonstrating this theory?

Random 2v2 game on Road to Kharkov. My team is double Soviet, my opposite number is Ost, his partner is OKW. I went T1-T3 and Guards Motor Coordination Tactics for Guards Rifles and T-34/85s, held the middle and top points mostly alone, and slowly got pushed back. The real issue I had was with the Panzerwerfer 43 the Wehr player started bombarding me with; it broke up my defenses and kept me from repairing my armor.

Hey, I've watched the first reply (vs. double Ost) to the 14:30 mark, and I've got enough comments that I think it'll be a good place for you to start. Broadly speaking, I think your confidence in your early game is misplaced, and for now you should focus on that.

Very early game:

1) Your RE squad can't 1v1 anything, so don't send it to cap points where it might encounter the enemy. I know getting the fuel quickly is a goal, but if you'd sent your RE to the sourthern corner at first, both your RE and your first rifle squad would hit the fuel area around the same time.

2) Related point: your squads were spread apart far enough that they couldn't support each other. When two gren squads are firing their guns and only one rifle squad is, the overall MP bleed favors the enemy. There are cases where this is okay due to other considerations (like map control tradeoff), but you didn't gain enough value for the bleed you suffered.

Early-Mid Micro Issues:

3) Related to point (2), when you put one rifle squad in a building to protect it from three gren squads, the MP bleed *still* favors the enemy, just because there's so much more DPS coming out. You garrisoned building in the face of overwhelming odds a couple times, which would be fine if you had reinforcements coming up and just needed to hold the ground for a few seconds. As it was, you bled the enemy a little bit, he bled you a lot, and you were forced to retreat anyway.

4) That fighting position was very poorly placed. The way you had it, it could be easily flanked on both sides. If you watch the replay, the enemy actually sees it and sends one gren squad perfectly up the left and another up the right. IMO, that area of the map is too open for a bunker, and you'd have been better served to put it among the buildings or on the north side of the church to cover the north road into town.

5) You used specific units incorrectly. Solo REs never beat LMG grens in green cover, even with Volley Fire. Pathfinders have great DPS, range, and LOS, so they should always be with or near your main force in the mid game, providing intel and fire support. Your captain should also be with your main force, so he doesn't get assassinated (like he did) and so he can prey on any vehicle that catches a lucky rifle AT grenade. You didn't drop an MG to anchor your army until a good while after unlocking it. Mostly, this is just about getting familiar with what uses each unit can be put to.

Early-Mid Macro Issues:

6) ZOMG you floated so much MP, and your teammate was even worse. If you turn on resources, there's basically no point after the early game during which your team isn't floating several hundred more MP than the enemy. You desperately needed an ambulance of your own and never bought one. You unlocked air drop .50cals and waited *far* too long to actually use one (not to mention dropping it dangerously close to the front). My advice: if you even have 200 or more MP and you don't already know what your next unit is going to be, go OP a fuel point. If it happens again, OP a muni point. Pumping out HMCs, Jacksons, and Strafing Runs is how US wins the late game, and that'll go much faster if you invest in your economy.

7) Speaking of munis, I saw you tech grenades, but didn't see you ever actually use one. In light of your massive (300+) stockpile, I think you should've been throwing them like candy. Into buildings, onto MGs, sure; but also just into green cover that the enemy is heading for. Hell, you had so much that tossing a few just into open ground the enemy was walking through would've been a good move. There's no point in slowing your tech for nades if you don't use them.

8) Speaking of slow tech, you didn't start your captain until 120 fuel (he only needs 80), even though that was the only reasonable use for fuel at the time and you were at the point where enemy vehicles were becoming a concern. Same with the AT gun. You had the Captain out, plenty of field presence, and floated manpower, but you didn't start your AT gun (and then left it in your base) for far too long. This is about anticipating vehicles - having an AT gun ready to welcome the first Puma (or whatever) is a *huge* strategic win. You can be certain that at some point enemy vehicles will hit, so preempting them should be a priority as soon as you're not desperate for more infantry on the line.

9) Your enemies had a huge number of MGs and mortars, so your teammate really should have gotten a mortar HT to scare them off. If you had air dropped a couple MGs, and he had called in a mortar HT, you could have shut down that entire horde of MGs, mortars and grens that the enemy kept pushing on the southeast side of town.


I hope all that helps. Overall, I think you never had that game (in the first 14:30 I watched) locked down the way you think you did. You had good map control, but never really denied the enemy fuel so they kept up in the tech race. Similarly, your map control came at the cost of some pretty poor manpower trade offs, resulting in you and the enemy having reasonable equal sized armies; this was exacerbated by the amount of float your team suffered. Your micro on what your screen is focused on seems fine, so I'd recommend trying to relax your mind enough to think about what's happening in the rest of the game. Best of luck improving your game.