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I was talking nondoc as Esxile talked about superior stock elite infantry. If you add doc in, then PF blob shows up by midgame and they don't even need Obers. Hell they can just meme with Falls or in the case of UKF (ab)use JLI until the UKF player RQs. MG34 is not a real issue imho considering the plethora of USF smoke abilities.

Realistically you won't get PGs that quickly, unless your opponent is being strangely lax (1v1) or it's teamgames (which is another matter entirely). Having such a weak force out there is asking to get shot to pieces by allied mainlines outnumbering you, esp Rifles. To that end OST extremely often get a Sniper instead vs USF, which slows down the arrival of PGs even more.

Didn't know RM poped out fully equiped with BARs...

When PG hit the field around 4 minutes there are at maximum 1 BAR equip on 1 squad when the munition isn't kept for zook on the lieutenant. So the PG is at that time the best infantry on the field.

When Obers Hit the field, Volks are at their Peak, they're fully equipped with STG and RM usually have their own 1 BAR on each squad making them slightly superior to Volks but worse on the ratio MP/bleed. Obers hit the field around 8-10 minutes when you're starting equipping x2 BARs on RM and once they reach vet2 they simply dominate everything.

Sometime you should read those patch notes and balance team's comments, you'll understand that what I'm describing is as per their design, I'm not inventing anything here. Everything has been made in the last patches to reduce Axis "inferior" infantry on the early and mid game while keeping their superior infantry strength on the late game. AKA PG available before T2 built, Obers available before Shwere wagon fully UP.

The "bleed" or manpower issue is just a resultant of those changes, I'm not agreeing with the OP though because I don't think that its USF that bleed too much but Ostheer and OKW that don't bleed anymore, I've been watching many replays in the last months on focusing on this particular aspect of the game and OKW never bleed even when pushed back. You really have to fuck up extremely hard to feel the bleed as OKW.

One of the major side effect of this lack of bleed allow the easiness for OKW and Ostheer to build 2 Atgun midgame and render USF light and mediums tanks useless increasing the aspect of being incapable to bleed their opponent while bleeding a lot.

It's a well known fact that axis arty have less range AOE damage and fewer missiles every barrage, so their squad wiping potential is limited. But ok since you fail to understand what im saying, compare the ST with the AVRE and you will realize that the AVRE is far more dangerous then the ST. Its turret allows it to make maneuvers that the ST cannot make. And if you think that 2 pupchens in the rear are obnoxious, then you have not seen the 17p emplacement and AVRE combo.

If it is fact, then show us.

Thats the whole point. We either should butcher all of them because, dispite them being different, whole idea behind them is the same. Or they should recieve soft nerfs via some resonable disadvantages, but they will still remain strong.

But I'm not sure if balance team is fine with "meme" units, but they are clearly uncappable of "rethinking" meme units into a proper ones. Since they made B4 into a cancer unit on its own, but the same people who want to nerf ST in a different thread will be saying that B4 is completly fine because Axis have a ST.

And balance team would say "Welp, we are playing top 100 teamgames, maybe even pre-mades, and there is always a guy with an off-map, thats why everything is fine."

More important point is that this topic is about Sturmtiger, If you believe the Avre is over performing then feel free to open a dedicated topic about it.
You can't compare those unit in a vacuum because even if they are similar because their army surrounding them aren't. OKW is not Brit. And a big part of over performing performances of a unit comes from the faction that facilitate easy counter to intended counters.

A Sturmtiger in a vacuum isn't impossible to beat with a TD, but then when you add the 2 raketen that will always follow it, the problem appears because there is no way for any allied faction to be able to quickly disable those 2 units and at the same time take on the Sturmtiger with the same amount of resources.
And then you also get the question of micromanagement taxes to perform it and cost of failure.

Is the Avre in the same position? I don't know but feel free to open a dedicated topic to answer the question.

I've seen several people post this. Yes it has a massive amount of hitpoints (1280-1440), but the armor is nothing special. 220-242/110-121 front/rear armor is bad for a heavy vehicle. For comparison, the AVRE has 290/180 armor.

When doing balance comparisons/reviews, its armor is definitely not a factor to take into consideration. It won't bounce much. Its durability comes mostly from raw health.

220 armor is a big deal when you already need 8 shots to take it down. Only TDs have an impact on it which is part of the struggle to counter it. If it had like 150 armor then a couple of mediums tanks would able to counter it.
So yes, its armor is definitely a factor to take into consideration. It doesn't mean reducing it is the solution but reducing it can be part of it.

Ahh yes top 10 rank in 3v3 SOV among other things = garbo.

Guess I should quit the OKW 3v3 ladder then, I still get lectured basic OKW concepts lectured to me every now and then lol.

3vs3 is probably the worst bracket, nobody plays it.