Thats esp frustrating cuz I play relatively well in a normal game but when I face this I absolutely dont know what to do. And loosing to players that would never a take a game from me before last patch with this "strategy".
Su85 are you serious? Zis is getting wiped by leigs. Su76 is nothing. Heavy mortars are nerfed (range! and price)
wait what? u asked for early game advice, but somehow the okw player managed to get out a t1 building (+ a leig) and t3? thats midgame, there are enough counters by then, really. |
am i the only one not giving a single fk about war spoils because its just a duplicate fest anyway?
i would but some commanders are very important in this meta to be competitve (play ostheer without tiger? play soviet without isu prepatch?) |
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you better forget about warspoils, got 160h and 1 commander, my mate got the same amount of playtime and got noone so far. |
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i recently had a game were my mortar ht did exactly 2 kills after 20min field presence. and no, it was basically nonstop shooting (maybe 20% auto fire, rest was microing via attack command and barrage command). |
The 222 destroys caches, M3s and M5s, Pries, M8A1, Kats, F-Positions etc. And it only costs 20 fuel. WTF?
And yet, it sucks against Inf. Such a weird unit.
thats the difference between ap and he rounds. |
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at guns are fine, really. |
Taking away the ability to precision strike and 50% more damage is doing soviets sooooooo great favor.
having 3-4 b4`s is soooooo useless(without a huge mp and pop penalty ofc!), sorry. |
Ok, I don't get one thing.
Firstly You cried about great vet 3 bonus that can kill tanks with a single shot. When I told You about doctrine that can just decrew B-4 (and van Voort today) which means no vet, plenty of RNG, no vet 3 bonus, you started saying that it cannot kill B-4, just the crew. So what's the problem? vet 3 bonus? Precision strike? Or B-4 itself?
Relic! Remove B-4! 
I'm not complaining about Jadgtiger that can survived button, mark target, FAB-50 bombing run and shooting from 2 ISUs yet you complaing about unit which can be killed or decrewed with 2 click.
In 2v2 as OKW and OST just take Jadgtiger and Elephnat+Stuka and it's gg. No counter. ISU is negated by Jadgtiger and B-4 by Stuka. Pls, tell me what's the counter for such combo!
@kurcohista
Try to move units when you see recon or make flaktruck to kill planes.
Stuka will just decrew? So decrewing B-4 and removing vet is not a counter? You are saying about great 50% dmaage bonus and then you say that decrew is not a counter 
@spajn
No, it's not spammable. Recon+Precision strike is more that 90 and still you have to plant mines everywhere because your biggest tanks vs Panthers, Tiger, King Tiger or JT are T34/76, SU85, or mighty KV1 
And remember about Shocks smoke grenedes which are must-use against Obers and Grens.
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By the way, from my experience, decrewing vet2/3 B-4 it's most of the time GG for me.
And I will quote myself if you missed it:
"By the way, many times it's enough just to have stuka doctrine in line up. Soviets are forced to pick up doctrine since 2 CP if rely on elite inf so if Im not sure which doctrine my enemy has I just can't go for B-4 because it bill be too risky, while Axis players often can wait a long time after 2 CPs to choose doctrine."
why do people still dont reckonzie that your helping the sov player if you only decrew the b4? yeye its a bug but untill the bug isnt fixed its broken. |
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why always this bias? i play both factions equally and i find allys actual way stronger lol |
Sure you can, but the loses you'll suffer for decrewing a B-4 won't be worth it.
if you decrew the b4 your only helping your enemy because the bug with the pop+mp income. currently the pop and reduced mp income comes from the b4 crew, not the gun itself. |
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