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Thread: M4A3 76mm Sherman V E8 Sherman28 Jul 2020, 04:57 AM Oh hey, I made this same thread 3 months ago but didn't get much of a response. https://www.coh2.org/topic/105224/winter-patch-current-state-of-doctrinal-armour/post/818268 Everything that has been mentioned over there has been mentioned here. One thing I want to bring over is the special HVSS suspension that the E8 has and only the E8 in the entire game. The HVSS suspension bonus is supposedly no scatter penalty while moving. The only tank in the game to have that according to this post https://www.coh2.org/topic/36347/cruzz-s-the-more-you-know The benefit is that the main gun is able to kill infantry better on the move but the gun on the E8 currently is garbage vs infantry so the bonus is insignificant. Easy Eight has no scatter penalty on the move so it will be just as effective against infantry with the main gun standing still as moving One thing I would also consider is just adding a switchable round (HE/AP) to the E8 so it's a directly improved Sherman at a higher cost. Its gimmick is the HVSS suspension but its insignificant and that should be addressed. I know the days of E8 domination heralded a time of USF dominance and may trigger some folks but those days are long behind us and factions are much different than they were back then. Perhaps we should bring back the original idea of Rifle Company Commander (Vet 1 infantry at 300 req and E8 with higher splash). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Am I wrong to recommend the Soviets to new players?28 Jul 2020, 04:31 AM I, personally, recommend OST to new players because most of their units are good and have clear defined roles. OST feels well rounded and good to play. They have a very satisfying late-game too. In: Red Army Strategies
Thread: KV-2 What is it good for?28 Jul 2020, 04:20 AM Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2020, 16:27 PMMagnusEffect Just my two cents: Are you familiar with StarCraft? The KV-2 is basically the CoH2 version of the Siege Tank from that game (gets a big refire rate and range increase with a toggled ability that sacrifices mobility). In my experience, it actually works best as mobile heavy artillery. But to use it at its full potential, you MUST use its deployed "turret mode". It has roughly the destructive power of the B-4 (thanks to much higher fire rate) but is way more accurate and will auto-attack any targets in range like a mortar. Thanks to its impressive range when in turret mode, it is particularly effective at helping to deny capture over multiple sectors if you position it well. Is it strictly better than the ISU-152? I will never say that, but you have to look at costs and trade offs too. For starters, the ISU-152 is more expensive in every way (MP,Fuel,pop). You also have to account for the other Commander abilities that are included with these vehicles. Ultimately, it depends on what you are looking for. If you just want a better TD, the ISU-152 is the obvious choice. But if you want some heavy indirect fire support with more consistent fire rate, the KV-2 is the better of the two for that. Either way, the weaknesses of either can be supplemented by other units in your arsenal. Functionally, the KV-2 does exactly what it was always suppose to (it was built to be a bunker buster). If you want to talk "balance" maybe adjust unit cost as needed (I don't have any strong opinion about that), but that should be it. Of course, some opinions here may differ, but from what I can tell, I don't think most people use it as it was intended; if you treat it like heavy artillery, it does great. You are right in that ISU is slightly more expensive but not by much. I feel like the KV-2 does not perform well for its cost. I am an avid Starcraft Broodwar and Starcraft 2 player. I like how you compare the KV-2 to the Siege tank since both have the siege tank. The Starcraft 2 siege tank has instant undodgeable splash damage while in siege mode and it has a different weapon in unsieged mode. I have said this before but the KV-2's projectile is incredibly slow and can be easily dodged especially at range which makes it ineffective against anything that isn't standing still. In addition, there are no 'bounces' or scatter in Starcraft. The siege tank is reliable, accurate high burst splash damage. The KV-2 is very unreliable in penetrating armour and hitting infantry especially at range because of its slow projectile speed. I want to bring back the cost into account. The ISU is only slightly more expensive but it has fast moving HE shells for wiping infantry that cannot be easily dodged unless by scatter. It comes with AP rounds for engaging tanks and it has the range without entering siege mode. IMO. As a late-game doctrinal tank, the KV-2 probably ranks as one of the worse late-game doctrinal tanks. In that it must expose itself unnecessarily and it is mostly ineffective for its cost. I think the KV-2 was good when it was released by the evolving meta/changes of Coh2 has forgotten our humble KV-2. Edit: I don't like being an armchair developer complaining about something and not proposing changes so I think the following should be put into consideration to bring it more in line with other heavies. - Cost needs to be adjusted if no other buffs are made - Projectile speed needs to be looked at. Either changed to a fast projectile like the ISU or increased travel time like the comparable to the Brumbar which this tank competes with. - Siege time needs to be shortened. See below. I think the comparison to the Starcraft siege tank is a very good one. The Starcraft siege tank has a clear and defined role. It is powerful but it has it weaknesses too. I think the KV-2 should move more into a siege tank type role in that it is less effective while unsieged but more effective while sieged. Setup siege time should be around 3-4 seconds while unsiege should be slightly faster at 2-3s. Currently I think it is around ~10s(?) which is far too long and makes it far too vulnerable to artillery or call-ins. There is no counter play with anything more than 3s of setup/tear down time. These are preliminary changes with future changes to adjust reload time, penetration and AoE based on performance. In: Red Army Strategies
Thread: Winter Patch - Current state of doctrinal armour28 Jul 2020, 04:10 AM Took a break from the game and came back. No changes to the E8. I am sad that it is still bad despite it being so iconic. In: US Forces Strategies
Thread: Coutering Axis heavy tanks late game14 Jun 2020, 20:02 PM Are you going comet or churchill for late game? Ideally you want to get a firefly paired with a comet or churchill and some infantry to soak damage. The firefly is weak when unsupported but very strong when supported. The strengths of the firefly is its long range, strong gun and tulip rockets. Your firefly should never be engaged in front line combat. You should leave that to your infantry in trenches or your damage soak tank. Don't forget that as a TD tank, the firefly has 60 range instead of the usual 45 on most tanks. The gun is a 17pdr (same one on the emplacement) so it does 200 damage instead of the 160 on most tanks although it does fire slower. The tulip rockets while they do cost a lot to setup and fire, helps the firefly win or at least push back any tank in 1v1. Each tulip rocket does 120 damage for a total of 240 damage. Royal engi's have access to good mines so make sure to be spamming them in your territory so if your enemy pushes, they run into mines. In: UKF Strategies
Thread: 4v4 tips for returning non USF main14 Jun 2020, 18:18 PM Oh hey, I play a lot of USF in 4v4's. I can chime in on this. My favourite build with USF is building 2 Riflemen, ambulance, grenade upgrade then going Captain and upgrading Captain post. Grenades are very important to swing fights, so its getting and holding munitions points for those grenades. USF have a reliance on muni to win fights and push positions. From there you can go Howitzer if your enemy is really static or another Riflemen squad into AAHT if your opponent is very mobile. If your opponent on your side has a lot of MGs then you want a mortar for smoke barrage. Your RE's can throw smoke out too similar to how Riflemen used to be able to but it requires grenade research. The ambulance is a VIP unit for USF. You can position it near the front in your territory to reinforce and heal close to the front. Try not to commit to fights too hard so you can always walk it off and walk a short walk back to your ambulance. It also requires careful monitoring and micro to ensure your ambulance is not sniped. Losing it can be devastating. You want to make fighting positions with your rear echelon units, upgrade them with MGs for 60 muni and garrison them with the same rear echelon units since they get a grenade launcher when they're inside the fight position. The fighting position is your key building/unit to hold ground when you retreat or need to heal. It is a key unit to protect your ambulance. If you do end up going AAHT, keep it alive. Don't lose it. Its a rare unit in the game that shines well in the early game and transitions well into the mid and late game well. It still has a use as an AA unit in late game. Its honestly one of the best tank USF has. Mid-game you want to get your Major when you have 120 fuel. This really depends on the situation of your game. If you are winning then you want to get a Sherman. Ideally before 15 minute mark. If your game is going bad then you probably want an anti-tank gun to defend your fighting position, get weapon upgrades and then get zooks on your Riflemen. If they have all the fuel then they are most certainly going to make tanks so you should expect tanks. Late-game is where USF really fall off gameplay wise. You want to be making Jacksons as they counter every Axis vehicle except Jagdtiger/Elefant. Jacksons can be moved around on the front pretty quickly to deal with any Axis armour. I like to keep a Sherman around for anti-infantry (AI) with HE shells. The smoke on the Sherman is good for pushing MGs too. Its very fragile though so use it like you would your AAHT. Keep your AAHT near the rear, near your Major/ambulance to protect it from air attacks. Make more Riflemen if you have a surplus of MP, a second anti-tank gun is not bad either as it takes a lot of dakka to take down Axis heavy armour. RE: Commanders I like both calliope commanders as its the most versatile. The doctrinal calliope really good in that, USF lack a strong blob wipe indirect outside of Howitzer and HE sherman. Blob wipe is incredibly important in 4v4 as squads tend to bunch up. I like commanders with the M1919. The M1919 is similar to the Gren MG42 (great damage at long range, not so great up close). BAR is great damage close-mid range. If you get both on your Riflemen squad then you should win fights pretty easy especially at vet 2 or 3. Oh and if you haven't noticed there is one commander with calliope and M1919 which is coincidentally my favourite commander. If you go I&R pathfinders or pathfinders then you should treat them as the USF equivalent of snipers. Incredibly fragile long range dps unit. As the other person said. Pershing is really meh. Its basically an Allied panther but you're only allowed 1. Its good wiping infantry and can sorta hold its own against an enemy heavy tank but don't expect it to win without any help. In: US Forces Strategies
Thread: The Churchill14 Jun 2020, 02:43 AM It feels like a budget king tiger. You downloaded the gun and the armour so you can pay less. I'd rather just have a full king tiger tbh. In: Lobby
Thread: Ram + Offmap combo needs to be nerfed5 Jun 2020, 21:27 PM I don't think Ram + offmap needs change however Allies specifically Soviets and USF could use some non-doctrinal heavy armour if this combo was to be nerfed. I have no problem with it being nerfed but Axis having access to heavy armour and Panther without doctrinal choices makes shitty combos like Ram+IL2 a necessity. You can't nerf their most effective way of getting value trades without providing alternatives. Also as someone else mentioned before, T-34 has no place in the game after the first tank phase when Axis can get heavier armour. T-34 simply becomes a liability especially with how poorly it trades. This leads to the current meta of Allies TD vs Axis heavy armour. Keeping Ram+IL2 in the game at least gives a high risk/high reward component to the T-34. You either win or lose to one stupid combo. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3A1, can we talk about IT ?1 Jun 2020, 16:42 PM Jump back to quoted post27 May 2020, 17:43 PMachpawel Maybe the answer is that those trucks should absorb damage first instead of infantry, and when they die, troops inside should leave them healthy. It would add many possibilities related to sacrificing such trucks but leaving troops inside in a better tactical position on the map and fully healthy. Seems like a nice trade off. Would add a lot variety, especially if those guys inside were even less effective with some more nerds to their accuracy when inside. Technically you can do that with a good enough reaction. If you select the unit inside and right-click move them out before the clown car dies, you can save the squad. In: Red Army Strategies
Thread: No use for Panzergrenadiers1 Jun 2020, 15:54 PM Not a pro-gamer here but Panzer grens are great in team games where its grenade which is both fast and has a big boom, is great for wiping enemy squads. Getting Shrek upgrade makes it a dedicated AT squad with slight infantry protection similar to when Strumpios get shreks, they lose half DPS with 2 shreks. Also they have the inherent buff to fight well when nearby your armour so try and place them near your armour to buff them. Its a combined arms unit instead of a solo unit. In: Ostheer Strategies