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Short barreled p4 for OST?

16 Oct 2019, 21:00 PM
#41
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Would have made more sense than the P4J for Ost.
16 Oct 2019, 21:06 PM
#42
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Is it easy to do stuff like that? I mean new models.


No idea but I'm guessing it's fairly time consuming and complex.

I mostly mod the text based stuff so to speak.

Models, animations and textures aren't really my glass of whisky.
16 Oct 2019, 21:14 PM
#43
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No idea but I'm guessing it's fairly time consuming and complex.

I mostly mod the text based stuff so to speak.

Models, animations and textures aren't really my glass of whisky.


Still, this pantgerjager rocks :)
16 Oct 2019, 21:22 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Oct 2019, 21:00 PMCODGUY
Would have made more sense than the P4J for Ost.


Read a book maybe? Panzer IV F1s were an extreme rarity in 1944.
16 Oct 2019, 22:27 PM
#45
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Read a book maybe? Panzer IV F1s were an extreme rarity in 1944.


Uhhh the Wehrmacht is actually based around 1941-1943 judging by their equipment, after Kursk because of their defensive posture (bunkers) and Elefant instead of Ferdinand (they were upgraded to the Ele after the battle). So not really 1944, unless you count the StG44s of course.
16 Oct 2019, 22:43 PM
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Uhhh the Wehrmacht is actually based around 1941-1943 judging by their equipment, after Kursk because of their defensive posture (bunkers) and Elefant instead of Ferdinand (they were upgraded to the Ele after the battle). So not really 1944, unless you count the StG44s of course.


Ostheer and Soviet are based around 1943-1944; aside from the MP 44 there is the T-34 model 1944 (T-34-85) and the IS-2 using the late 1944 hull (glacis is sloped instead of stepped). USF and OKW are both based in late 1944 - 1945, specifically based off the units and equipment present at the Battle of the Bulge, this is the entire reason why OKW has unicorns like the infrared tech, Sturmtiger, or Flame Hetzer. British Forces are based in 1945 with the Comet tank.

That does leave some oddities like Soviets relying on T-34-76's to fight OKW's Panzer IV Ausf. J's, or sending in T-34-76's alongside M4A3 Sherman and Mk VIII Cromwell tanks.
16 Oct 2019, 23:12 PM
#47
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The Soviet campaign is from Stalingrad to the opera house, which gives a late 42-45 timeline for units.

The DLC missions start even earlier into case blue.
16 Oct 2019, 23:17 PM
#48
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The Soviet campaign is from Stalingrad to the opera house, which gives a late 42-45 timeline for units.

The DLC missions start even earlier into case blue.


The Campaign also tailors you units to the timeline, for the most part, and Case Blue does the same and even includes a (rather shoddy) 'early war' restriction that removes or replaces certain units. The multiplayer armies are based off a more narrow timeline, which I already went over.
16 Oct 2019, 23:28 PM
#49
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The Campaign also tailors you units to the timeline, for the most part, and Case Blue does the same and even includes a (rather shoddy) 'early war' restriction that removes or replaces certain units. The multiplayer armies are based off a more narrow timeline, which I already went over.
I wouldn't interpret online matches as a single time period, but a hybrid timeline. All the armies start with late war vehicles locked behind tech. At 10 minutes you tend to be fighting with 43ish tech. 20 minutes you're fighting with 44-45 tech.
17 Oct 2019, 04:21 AM
#50
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Read a book maybe? Panzer IV F1s were an extreme rarity in 1944.


I'm looking at it in terms of utility. The P4J is essentially the samething as the standard vetted P4 that they already get. The short-barreled P4 would make it like an OST Sherman and have it focused on infantry support.
17 Oct 2019, 04:58 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Oct 2019, 04:21 AMCODGUY
I'm looking at it in terms of utility. The P4J is essentially the samething as the standard vetted P4 that they already get. The short-barreled P4 would make it like an OST Sherman and have it focused on infantry support.


The Sherman has better penetration (except at long range) than the Panzer IV, but 20 less armor.

The Panzer IV Command Tank has penetration more comparable to a T-70, and less than a Stuart.
17 Oct 2019, 08:22 AM
#52
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Ostheer and Soviet are based around 1943-1944; aside from the MP 44 there is the T-34 model 1944 (T-34-85) and the IS-2 using the late 1944 hull (glacis is sloped instead of stepped). USF and OKW are both based in late 1944 - 1945, specifically based off the units and equipment present at the Battle of the Bulge, this is the entire reason why OKW has unicorns like the infrared tech, Sturmtiger, or Flame Hetzer. British Forces are based in 1945 with the Comet tank.

That does leave some oddities like Soviets relying on T-34-76's to fight OKW's Panzer IV Ausf. J's, or sending in T-34-76's alongside M4A3 Sherman and Mk VIII Cromwell tanks.


I was specifically talking about the Wehrmacht and taking into account their Theater of War units as well.
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