USF urban assault

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 19:53 PMblvckdream

Because PGs don't get 3 shrecks and aren't 5 man squads?

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 20:11 PMGrumpy

I'm not defending Urban Assault (because its BS and annoying) but I'm pretty sure that the two shrecks of the PG's do as much damage as the 3 bazookas, and are more likely to penetrate.

Even more annoying was having to play two automatch games last night against a "top 30" OKW player who had Urban Assault as one of his 3 OKW commanders. He used both Calliopes and Rangers in both matches, but couldn't buy zooks for his rangers. Rangers with Thompsons shred cons.

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 20:11 PMGrumpy

I'm not defending Urban Assault (because its BS and annoying) but I'm pretty sure that the two shrecks of the PG's do as much damage as the 3 bazookas, and are more likely to penetrate.

Even more annoying was having to play two automatch games last night against a "top 30" OKW player who had Urban Assault as one of his 3 OKW commanders. He used both Calliopes and Rangers in both matches, but couldn't buy zooks for his rangers. Rangers with Thompsons shred cons.

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 20:17 PMblvckdream

Elite Zooks are just as good as Shrecks are they not? I am not talking about the standard ones. I complain specifically about the elite ones.

Report the guy that abused commanders.

Urban Assault is really annoying in 2v2 at the moment. The RE rifle grenade is strong. The Rangers are strong. HE Sherman with dozer upgrade is flat out OP IMO. OKW and Ost P4 can't really hurt it due to the extra HP and armor. HE shells + phosphor ability have so much firepower to hurt your infantry and raketenwerfers. Then Calliope for the late game infantry wiping. Just a complete nightmare to play against. All of this wouldnt be such a big issue if USF couldn't abuse pop cap so easily. Try beating USF with double calliope double jackson a HE dozer sherman + zooka and bar blobs roaming around with your 100 Axis pop cap. It's almost impossible unless opponent completely messes up.

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 20:37 PMGrumpy

Elite zooks are 100 damage versus 120 for the shrek, IIRC. I don't know what is the difference in penetration values or fire rates. They probably fire faster like Alphrum claims so the DPS could be the same or higher. I think only the paratroopers get the elite zooks but haven't played a lot of USF lately and am not sure. I've ran into the triple zook rangers a couple times and was surprised how fast they will mess up an OKW P4. That said, it doesn't really feel worse than having to deal with double shrek Panzerfusiliers as Soviet.

The rifle nade is more annoying than the rangers to me, as it is really good at denying the use of cover. The annoyance far exceeds the damage.

I posted the replay in the replay section. Not sure who to report it to.

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 20:35 PMblvckdream

Ok, so the Ranger and Paratrooper Zook compared to Pgren Shrecks.

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 21:05 PMShadowLinkX37

I think this would be heavily fixed if it was given the valiant assualt treatment, where you cannot spring while in combat. Axis tank 3x MGs + any supporting troops would ensure the units would not sprint.