Easy USF fix

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2019, 09:42 AMGrim

I'd be happy for them to change it so that the Officers came with the side-tech of each tier instead and just made the tiers research a bit faster.

I'm not fussed about the officers, I want something which can suppress asap not another infantry squad to blob into my enemies.

No idea how badly this would mess up the balance though.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2019, 06:48 AMEsxile

What I don't really understand about those USF OP topics is that USF only received the close range dps buff for the riflemen and several nerf on its mid/late game indirect fire this last patch. I could understand such topic if USF players were abusing the shit out this riflemen buff by spaming them but no, the concern is about building the minimum of them early game.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2019, 18:58 PMTobis

Make the Cpt 6 man, 1 thompson and 5 bolt action rifles. 300 mp, functions as a strong long range defensive unit to soak up damage and recrew weapons.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2019, 22:06 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

The closest thing USF has to Bolt Actions in damage and long range profile are the Scoped Garands that Pathies have.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2019, 23:29 PMMr. Someguy

Oh that's an idea! One of the Officer Squads come with Scoped Rifles and an Assassinate ability. It'll be the Marksmen that USF never had, and historically authentic (around 1/3 of rifle squads had a marksman).

Maybe the other squad could have an M1919, and the ability to become a stationary in one direction, as a makeshift machine gun team. I kinda want this just because M1919's are cool, to be honest.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2019, 19:13 PMSkysTheLimit

I believe it has more to do with nerfs to USF opposition, than changes directly to USF. I could be wrong though, cause I also thought the same thing you're saying here

Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2019, 03:14 AMCODGUY

USF is already fixed. All it needs are 9 pop Rangers and and a 260 MP and 6 pop .50 cal.

Cancer-42 will stay and OKW elite infantry cancer blobs will stay too so you'll still get your Axis ez mode.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2019, 18:58 PMTobis

I'd like to see officers completely reworked. Right now they function exactly the same as normal rifleman squads, with different niche abilities and 1 thompson. They play exactly the same.

I would love them to be reworked to be optional units with more diverse roles.

- Make the Lt 4 man, 1 Thompson and 3 greaseguns. 300 mp, not free with tech. Functions as a stock assault close range unit, different from rifles.

- Make the Cpt 6 man, 1 thompson and 5 bolt action rifles. 300 mp, functions as a strong long range defensive unit to soak up damage and recrew weapons.

Just spitballing some ideas here. Officers as 5 man squads just feel way too similar to riflemen. Having 3 riflemen, a Lt, and a Cpt on the field plays exactly the same as having 5 riflemen. Needs some more variety.

Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2019, 16:26 PMFarlion

The M20, Stuart meta is ridiculous and needs a change ASAP. I don't know why Riflemen were buffed in the first place, since it was universally agreed they were fine (outside of people who don't know how to play USF or are obvious trolls, or both).

But all of that put together is simply way too much. Sure, if you play modes like 3v3 or 4v4 it's probably not very apparent, but in 2v2s and 1v1s they snowball entirely too hard, too quickly.

Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2019, 16:37 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

The new revisited DevM LV meta might be really strong but Riflemen weren't fine back in the day.
Or did you miss the Era people skipped on them for AEs and Pathfinders as they were actually worth your MP?

Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2019, 00:22 AMOutsider_Sidaroth

I like the idea of having the LT be a Grease Gun/Thompson Squad!

Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2019, 21:23 PMMr. Someguy

Unfortunately I have to disagree here. Between Assault Engineers, Cavalry Riflemen, Airborne, and Rangers, the US Forces have more variety in assault units than any other faction*, far from needing a fifth assault squad that is always available.

* Tied with OKW, who have Sturmpioneers, Assault Volksgrenadiers, IR Obersoldaten, and Fallschrimjager.