they are still overprice even with the upgrade, that's the difference
yea no they perform very well even without upgrades u can see by their elite weapons and numbers (if think obers are the only unit with the power fully gated behind upgrade as the developer team wanted them, old obers came with lmg alredy there)
this doesn't excuse their worse performance AND higher cost , 1 of them would be fine but both just make the unit useless
PFs are not overpriced with the upgrade, that is just your opinion. You are worried about initial cost of PFs while completely ignoring a fact that they reinforce for only 25 MP. Other mainlines of PF caliber reinforce for 27-30 MP.
If you'd seriously pay for the Obers and then use them without an upgrade with the 40 MP reinforcement cost you are delusional. This is a definition of cost ineffective considering how late you acquire them, so a weapon upgrade is a must for Obers. They do very well with either MG34 or IR STG but not without them.
then how much do u value the extra men and sight ? cause cons are 50 mun and they give and increase in dps ,vet and reinforce other than the extra men are u saying the increase in dps vet and reinforce only value 0 and the extra men 50 mun ?
This is a stupid question as the balance is asymmetrical and the units aren't the same between different factions so it's not a direct comparison. Different factions have different MU sinks. You also forgot to take into account how late the Con upgrade comes and that G43 increase PFs' DPS significantly too. Conscripts needed an upgrade more than any other unit to remain relevant in the lategame.
lol p fusi have the same vet as penal, they scale about the same as rifle
btw how good are fusy late game ? they are about penal lvl tho, thye have just alittle edge thanks to the g 43s cause they alredy have worse rifle and u even pay more mp (280 mp +25 of the extra men)
Don't forget the tech cost for penals. The tech time and penal build time play big role in the field presence of SOV army and the early game map control. It's a disadvantage that you may not fully take into account.