Right but no other faction has access to T1 terminators.
tommies and volks
Soviet September patch discussion
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17 Aug 2019, 16:38 PM
#241
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tommies and volks
17 Aug 2019, 16:43 PM
#242
Posts: 573
Right but no other faction has access to T1 terminators.
Those "terminators" are worse than riflemen in every way aside of one additional model in their squad.
And maxim setup speed in irrelevant since it has no suppression and narrow cone of fire, meaning it cant do what MG squads are supposed to - stop blobs
17 Aug 2019, 18:02 PM
#243
Posts: 4474
Yea guys it’s only a model , I mean it’s not like volks are strong cause they are basically worse green but have 1 more model
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17 Aug 2019, 18:11 PM
#244
Posts: 1979
Penals need to be flattened.... they need a worse earlygame... but a better lategame...
Ive already given my ideas for penal changes
Ive already given my ideas for penal changes
17 Aug 2019, 18:18 PM
#245
Posts: 556
tommies and volks
Volks and Tommies is this serious ?
Grens are finally good.
17 Aug 2019, 18:22 PM
#246
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Those "terminators" are worse than riflemen in every way aside of one additional model in their squad.
With 0.02 accuracy and 0.2 ish DPS. But one more model for 20MP.
Grens are finally good.
17 Aug 2019, 18:29 PM
#247
Posts: 1979
Volks and Tommies is this serious ?
I expected doubt against volksgrenadiers... but tommies are without question.... they are terminators
Volks i label terminators since theyre 10mp too cost efficient... hence spamming volks tactlessly is the okw strategy/meta... and is enough to contend with rifles conscripts even penals (with some skill)
17 Aug 2019, 18:30 PM
#248
Posts: 573
With 0.02 accuracy and 0.2 ish DPS. But one more model for 20MP.
Yeah and T1 cost plus lowest amount of starting resourses
17 Aug 2019, 20:21 PM
#249
Posts: 5279
Yeah and T1 cost plus lowest amount of starting resourses
To be fair though they can skip the teching up and field 2 of the worst units in the entire game for the advantage of early average map control so it balances out /s
#stalinwept
17 Aug 2019, 23:23 PM
#250
Posts: 556
I expected doubt against volksgrenadiers... but tommies are without question.... they are terminators
Volks i label terminators since theyre 10mp too cost efficient... hence spamming volks tactlessly is the okw strategy/meta... and is enough to contend with rifles conscripts even penals (with some skill)
Actually I think I am with you in that...
Grens are finally good.
17 Aug 2019, 23:26 PM
#251
Posts: 556
Yeah and T1 cost plus lowest amount of starting resourses
With the cheapest medium and notorious T-70 etc. Just had a 2v2 playing as SOV bullrushing penals later with T-70 against an OKW no problems. If you are blazing your opponent harder than your starting resources it is no problem i think. But SOV can get faster buildings tho. It is super slow.
Grens are finally good.
17 Aug 2019, 23:30 PM
#252
Posts: 281
Can we have commissar's propaganda ability drop faster? I mean the leaflets take a bit of a time. Compared with the german counter part retreat ability.
Also i believe airborne guards dropping weapons needs a fix.
Falls never drop fg42. Will they drop their weapons with the upcoming update?
Also i believe airborne guards dropping weapons needs a fix.
Falls never drop fg42. Will they drop their weapons with the upcoming update?
17 Aug 2019, 23:37 PM
#253
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Can we have commissar's propaganda ability drop faster? I mean the leaflets take a bit of a time. Compared with the german counter part retreat ability.
Meanwhile the German retreat ability gives nearby enemy units 50% more accuracy for a significant time, making it unusable against grouped infantry. I think the two officer forced retreat abilities should be standardized, Both dropping equally fast without buffing nearby enemy units.
17 Aug 2019, 23:38 PM
#254
Posts: 54
Good points about the AT partisans
only good one is at nade cd and maybe line of sight behind cover (even tho they will have more with september patch)
removing panzersherk is a bad idea imo, first they only have 1 they need 3 hit just to kill a ir halftrack if you didnt figure out that your shit is under attack that your fault. second, they are partisans so they dont survive that much and still cost a tons of pop and mp for a ostrupen squad of 4 mens with no anti infantry power
17 Aug 2019, 23:41 PM
#255
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Meanwhile the German retreat ability gives nearby enemy units 50% more accuracy for a significant time, making it unusable against grouped infantry. I think the two officer forced retreat abilities should be standardized, Both dropping equally fast without buffing nearby enemy units.
I agree.
18 Aug 2019, 01:23 AM
#256
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only good one is at nade cd and maybe line of sight behind cover (even tho they will have more with september patch)
removing panzersherk is a bad idea imo, first they only have 1 they need 3 hit just to kill a ir halftrack if you didnt figure out that your shit is under attack that your fault. second, they are partisans so they dont survive that much and still cost a tons of pop and mp for a ostrupen squad of 4 mens with no anti infantry power
The power is not to solo units, it's to pop out behind one's that just escaped, at which the 120 damage is usually enough.
I will ALWAYS support a move towards proper planning and ambushing over 1 click and profit type abilities. A free upgrade from ptrs to Shrek would only mean you need to ore deploy and ambush instead of pop and kill as needed and that would be a good change and a change very much in line with the way infiltration units as a whole seem to be moving
#stalinwept
18 Aug 2019, 04:45 AM
#257
Posts: 53
I dont think starting off with ptrs with partisans is a good idea. PTRS is weak in the late game and shreks are better all-around. I'd like to see a 5th partisan model at vet 3 as an initiative for preserving partisans for late game considering how squishy they are.
18 Aug 2019, 04:50 AM
#258
Posts: 888
Those "terminators" are worse than riflemen in every way aside of one additional model in their squad.
And maxim setup speed in irrelevant since it has no suppression and narrow cone of fire, meaning it cant do what MG squads are supposed to - stop blobs
Yeah I don't think any starting infantry unit is worse than Riflemen.
18 Aug 2019, 04:52 AM
#259
Posts: 3053
Yeah I don't think any starting infantry unit is worse than Riflemen.
Stop playing USF then lol.
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18 Aug 2019, 05:31 AM
#260
Posts: 888
Stop playing USF then lol.
I play UKF too but their stuff keeps getting nerfed into the ground lol. USF has some good units but they have without question the worst starting roster in the game by a huge margin.
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