OKW Fortifications, 1 change to make it T1 commander

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2019, 17:25 PMTiger Baron

I think that the volks wooden bunkers being replaced by the Concrete bunker able to be upgraded into an MG, Medic and Repair one would be nice. Medical one could be a bit more expensive but have an FRP (similar to the British Forward Assemblies, but doctrinal and more expensive) and a reinforce capability.

Just swap out the trench building and bunker from the 2 abilities and should be good in my opinion. I'd also love Osttruppen as cheap defensive type troops for the OKW as well. Something like an Atlantic Wall defensive doctrine.

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2019, 18:30 PMGI John 412

+1 on the concrete bunkers. I like it thematically for OKW a lot. Ostruppen would be a really cool idea too, but I don’t know how many players would use them instead of Volks which are already a lot cheaper than Grenadiers. They’d have to unlock their LMG42s once tier three is built too.

I like it, I like it a lot.

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2019, 20:33 PMHon3ynuts

I agree, the concrete bunkers do go well with the theme and the current Pioneer build ability is pretty situational. For a medical forward retreat point and repair point I think that overlaps with the trucks. OKW has fancy options for repairs/healing, but not economical ones.

Osttruppen would also be something new and cool, I think you would only be able to throw them in if you bundled all the construction abilities into one cp ability though, like 3 cps you can build 5 new defensive structures. I have really enjoyed how that has worked out in commanders like urban assault for USF and infantry company for Ostheer though, its nice to have many small quality of life abilities in addition to big flash ones.

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2019, 17:25 PMTiger Baron

I think that the volks wooden bunkers being replaced by the Concrete bunker able to be upgraded into an MG, Medic and Repair one would be nice.

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2019, 20:50 PMSander93

Concrete bunkers is a nice idea, but not the repair one, as OKW really does not need even faster repairs than they already have.

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2019, 21:45 PMGrim

Add pop cap to Axis/USF bunkers first then we can look at potential buffs and changes.

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2019, 21:45 PMGrim

This is one of the most popular commanders in team games so I would be vary wary of buffing it.

Not least due to the bunker spamming issue that plagues 3v3/4v4 and costs 0 pop cap.

Add pop cap to Axis/USF bunkers first then we can look at potential buffs and changes.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2019, 02:58 AMHon3ynuts

It is unreliable in any game because if your opponent has a good team they will be able to bomb the pak 43 or lefh. This commander should be able to add more to a strategy than just units that get instawiped by an off map if your opponents take the game seriously. I have never seen reinforcement bunker spam or medical bunker spam, and certainly don't think having a different Axis player build med bunkers will make a tangible impact on an allied players strategy. I think it is a middle of the road commander right now mabye 5/9, but more importantly many players like trying different build orders and strategies which can add to how much everyone enjoys the game.

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Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2019, 01:34 AMSkysTheLimit

+1

The cost of building them might prevent spamming in 1v1, but it gets real easy in team games