British balance - Tommy too strong

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 11:59 AMKatitof

They wouldn't have to tho due to cover ignoring of StGs and their potent long range DPS compared to other assault rifles.

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 11:59 AMKatitof

They wouldn't have to tho due to cover ignoring of StGs and their potent long range DPS compared to other assault rifles.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jul 2019, 19:21 PMKatitof

For the 1203014001 time, tommies DO NOT HAVE ANY COVER BONUS, they have OUT OF COVER PENALTY

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 04:30 AMNoinga

This is all I need from that essay you posted. You see, unlike the UKF the OKW and Wher have more base units available to them. If you use these units tommies will still be a threat but not a horrendous one. Smoke is the brits greatest fear. All of the british main units require the enemy to be far away with the vickers and the tommies so smoke renders that playstlye irrelevant. Then you can push out the mg with grenades and crack open their line. It all comes down to who plays better. If you ram your head into UKF while they are sitting back behind sandbags of course you lose. All you need to do is close the distance, that being with smoke cover or just a flank. This is just another case of players not adjusting tactics and getting their asses handed to them as a result. yet in this case this player felt the need to make another one of the infamous "It beat me its op" posts.

• The brits have an MG which is unnecessary with boister
  
• The brits dont have a Engie/Commando which can force off close range assaults.
  
• The Brits dont have a Bren Carrier
  
• A mortar/LEIG gives UKF the opportunity to have another Tommie
  
• A LEIG locks OKW into non-Light Vehicle play which is kinda the counter to tommies.
  

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 16:05 PMinsaneHoshi

You do know that most players who see smoke will not say: "I think ill just sit still and let them use the smoke as cover."

And of course this ignores that

• The brits have an MG which is unnecessary with boister
  
• The brits dont have a Engie/Commando which can force off close range assaults.
  
• The Brits dont have a Bren Carrier
  
• A mortar/LEIG gives UKF the opportunity to have another Tommie
  
• A LEIG locks OKW into non-Light Vehicle play which is kinda the counter to tommies.
  

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 16:33 PMNoinga

Are you trying to be an idiot? You attack the second the smoke lands. This allows you to displace their lines in the middle of your attack. Engies are weak and can be focused easily. The bren carrier is good but can be forced away easily. You dont need lights to counter tommies. Every time I give a counter to the infantry section, All the people in this thread do is point to the Vickers or the Bren carrier. So it seems to me at this point the problem is not the tommies but their supporting weapons.

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 15:53 PMNaOCl

I think you're forgetting that tommies get a cover bonus.

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 16:56 PMinsaneHoshi

It also lets them move back the second the smoke lands. If there is no sprint active a unit can advance as fast as the tommies can pull back.

Like have you actually used this versus good players or are you just theory crafting or does this happen to you and you dont know how to pull back?

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 17:33 PMNoinga

The smoke allows you to push up their lines and if they move back you take up the cover they left behind.

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 17:33 PMNoinga

The smoke allows you to push up their lines and if they move back you take up the cover they left behind. This puts you in the advantageous situation now. Because now YOU have the heavy cover and if you can set your own HMG up you can now defend the point. But whatever because you are probably going to say "what if the UKF player has 28 crocodiles or some BS. As soon as you see an infantry section thats beating you just sit in your base and cry. Dont even try to fight it Thats all I get from this thread. Just people Ignoring all their weaknesses to make excuses on why they lose to them.

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 17:39 PMSeductiveCardbordBox

Ssshhhh.

Don't confuse them with concepts as complex as 'you can use tactics to turn combats to your advantage'

There are forum warriors. They only understand 'Place X nect to Y in an empty field and the Axis letter should always win'

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 17:48 PMinsaneHoshi

Except that A) if a unit requires more complex tactics to beat, then it is to use, then that is sorta the definition of overpowered, B) Both players are free to use tactics.

If 1 click upgrade stg44 on the field, select 3 volk, attack move, flush tommy out of their cover by flame nade theb mold them down while they running out of the flame is "Complex tactics". Yes.

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 17:55 PMSupport Sapper

Except that A) if a unit requires more complex tactics to beat, then it is to use, then that is sorta the definition of overpowered, B) Both players are free to use tactics.

If 1 click upgrade stg44 on the field, select 3 volk, attack move, flush tommy out of their cover by flame nade theb mold them down while they running out of the flame is "Complex tactics". Yes.

Jump back to quoted post31 Jul 2019, 17:50 PMinsaneHoshi

Unlike building Four Tommies and getting Boister that is.