USF Officer improvement

Jump back to quoted post29 Jul 2019, 18:19 PMMazianni

The major is already such a critical utility unit for USF, I cringe whenever I see people letting him get wiped so easily.

Recon planes, artillery, the forward retreat point.

If he gets upgraded to a 4 man squad I think he should lose weapon slots, since seeing people stack bazookas or even BARs on the Major squad just looks and feels dumb, particularly since his guys are supposed to be radiomen and shouldn't be carrying all this extra combat junk.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jul 2019, 19:08 PMGI John 412

Removal of one weapon slot from the Major in exchange for an extra man would be fine, but I really don’t think the Major needs much work if any. I just figured that if we were going to suggest a redo of USF officers I might as well suggest an extra man for the Major.

I’m more interested in seeing what folks think about my suggestions for the Lieutenant and the Captain though.

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 00:56 AMLoopDloop

I like the major as-is. He really shouldn't ever be in direct combat at all (and thus shouldn't need an extra man), as all his abilities barring smoke are definitely useable from a safe distance from infantry engagements.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jul 2019, 01:02 AMMazianni

Honestly, after thinking about it some I feel like moving "On Me!" to the LT would be enough. It sort of fits the Lieutenant a bit more than the company commander imo. But, then you would have to make all sorts of other changes to veterancy and etc so at this point why bother. The officers are more or less fine as they are even if LT in particular is pretty bland and generally just a rifle squad with a Thompson, extremely high vet requirements, and worse starting RA.

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 08:28 AMflyingpancake

I like the idea proposed by GI John but recently I read another proposal on this forum that I think deserves a second look.

1 man officer squads that can merge with other infantry squads. If I remember correctly they keep there individual abilities and Thompson and get a merger abities like conscript. This means the individual manpower requirements are lowered significantly but the fuel price stays the same. This also means there can be more varied build order openings cause you are not locked into 2 pseudo "rifle squad" and less popcap burden.

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 23:12 PMGI John 412

First, thanks I feel like a lot of folks are just jumping on the 4 man Major aspect of my proposal, which is something I just threw in at the last second and I now regret considering how much it has taken away from any talk of my proposed modifications to the LT and Capt.

I like your idea a lot though, but I don’t know if it can be implemented for two main reasons.

1. The change is pretty radical and will probably get a lot of push back from those who would prefer to see no change or only minor changes.

2. I’m not sure if it can be done mechanically in the game. Because of the nature of how units merge the unit doing the merge is normally “eaten up” by the unit they are merging into, not the other way around. The Captain and Lieutenant doing the merge would also end up making a +1 man version of the regular squad. 6 man Riflemen? Powerful but not too strong if you can only get 1 or 2. But 7 man Paratroopers with 5 Thompsons or 2 M1919A6s or 6 man Rangers with 5 Thompsons or 3 Bazookas. The solution would be to limit the officers to merging with only Riflemen or Rear Echelon squads, but now you’re pretty much back to where you started.

I dunno, it sounds really cool and I’d love to see if it could be done, but I think it would be harder to balance.

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 23:16 PMLoopDloop

Make it an ability that you use on a rifleman squad like the brit command vehicle designation mechanic that gives them the extra model with thompson and abilities, and is limited to one. You could use it out of the tier building after you unlock it.

Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 02:22 AMSupport Sapper

This can work. Like after you tech up, an ability will appear in that building. For example, if you go LT, in the platoon command post will appear an ability call "lieutenant promotion", select it and clik on a rifles squad to promote it into an LT squad with an extra Lt model and LT abilities. For more realistic, promotion should required vet, vet 1 for LT, vet 2 for Cap, major can remain a separate squad like now.

Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 00:07 AMGI John 412

@LoopDloop, smart. That would be a good solution. Easy to implement and makes officers less of an investment to your population capacity. +10

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 00:56 AMLoopDloop

I like the major as-is. He really shouldn't ever be in direct combat at all (and thus shouldn't need an extra man), as all his abilities barring smoke are definitely useable from a safe distance from infantry engagements.

Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 18:20 PMRocket

On maps like crossing i put double bars on that mofo and let him go to town, he vets super quick and is actually super lethal and i just keep him towards the back. Hilariously axis players deem him a major threat for some reason and will try to chase and focus fire him so i pull him back so they move out of cover.