New comp
27 Dec 2012, 11:14 AM
#81
Posts: 246
Which is it now? 3570k i5, or the i7 3770k or the i7 3770(without the k?) Which one of theese should I take if i wont overclock
27 Dec 2012, 15:17 PM
#82
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I'm about as big a power user as it gets and I got a 3570K 
The 3570 and the 3770 are the same except for hyperthreading and slightly smaller cache. You probably wont notice the difference as both are excellent.
The K chips are unlocked and are for overclocking purposes and thats why they cost a $20 premium over the non K.
The 3570 and the 3770 are the same except for hyperthreading and slightly smaller cache. You probably wont notice the difference as both are excellent.
The K chips are unlocked and are for overclocking purposes and thats why they cost a $20 premium over the non K.
27 Dec 2012, 18:59 PM
#83
Posts: 642
Speaking of which, since I will have to build a new rig, what are your thoughts on the whole AMD vs Intel. I have always been an avid Intel fan, but AMD tends to be more price accessible. Should we avoid falling for the illusion that AMD likes putting higher clock speeds on their processors?
I know a friend of mine is disregarding all of my advice on the matter, and going for an AMD simply because a 4.0GHZ is $189.00, whereas an Intel would go for around $250-290
I know a friend of mine is disregarding all of my advice on the matter, and going for an AMD simply because a 4.0GHZ is $189.00, whereas an Intel would go for around $250-290
29 Dec 2012, 15:35 PM
#84
Posts: 50
SSD's you got to have em. You can't get speedy enough without em. Must have SSD's *cough* coke *cough*, ehm SSD's
No really. SSD has improved the overall speed of my computer. I'm a happy owner!
No really. SSD has improved the overall speed of my computer. I'm a happy owner!
30 Dec 2012, 17:58 PM
#85
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AMD is cheaper than Intel cuz AMD cant compete performance wise.
30 Dec 2012, 22:33 PM
#86
Posts: 1164
at the same price, AMD usually does offer the better performance though... if you want top performance, get intel... if money is the issue and performance is not, you can get AMD as well.
31 Dec 2012, 00:06 AM
#87
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at the same price, AMD usually does offer the better performance though... if you want top performance, get intel... if money is the issue and performance is not, you can get AMD as well.
I'll just go ahead and disagree with you. For gaming AMD doesnt compete with Intel at any price point.
31 Dec 2012, 02:00 AM
#88
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I'll just go ahead and disagree with you. For gaming AMD doesnt compete with Intel at any price point.
that's alright... cause pretty much every benchmark agrees with me ;-)
31 Dec 2012, 02:05 AM
#89
Posts: 119
AMD is cheaper than Intel cuz AMD cant compete performance wise.
Oh I miss the days when the Athlon XP reigned supreme.. the first computer i ever built had an Athlon XP 1700+ ( or was it 1800+..) because it was sooooo easy to overclock. First vid card I bought was the nv5200 ultra... All there was to argue about was whether or not the soyo dragon board was better than the epox one and if ddr 400 was worth the extra money over 333...
Those were the days!
E: and oh yea,
Starcraft 1
Morrowind
Homeworld
Battlefield 1942: Desert Combat
FTW!!!
I have no idea whats going on and that's the way I like it.
31 Dec 2012, 05:09 AM
#90
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that's alright... cause pretty much every benchmark agrees with me ;-)
uhhhh. Don't fight hardware with me son you'll just hurt yourself
AMD's latest and greatest FX8350 is priced at the same price point as a 3570K, and it still loses its ass to last years i5 2500K.
I too miss the old days of my Opteron 170 under watercooling pushing the limits, but those days are gone. AMD is in the shitter.
31 Dec 2012, 13:48 PM
#91
Posts: 119
For die-hard AMD fans like myself its sad but true... My next computer will probably have an i5 or i7 in it.
I have no idea whats going on and that's the way I like it.
31 Dec 2012, 14:03 PM
#92
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I never understood this AMD fanboy, Intel fanboy, Nvidea fanboy stuff. If i am searching for system components, i take whats best bang for the buck at that time, or not? I've had numerous systems containing AMD and Intel CPUs, as well as nvidia and ATI GPUs. I can't say any company has done me better than the other.
31 Dec 2012, 14:20 PM
#93
Posts: 119
I never understood this AMD fanboy, Intel fanboy, Nvidea fanboy stuff. If i am searching for system components, i take whats best bang for the buck at that time, or not? I've had numerous systems containing AMD and Intel CPUs, as well as nvidia and ATI GPUs. I can't say any company has done me better than the other.
It has a lot to do with being young and strapped for cash when you built your first computer ( at least that was the case with me ) AMD came up with the Athlon XP line and became a savior for people who wanted high performance tweak-able PCs on a budget. Since almost everyone else around you is a fanboy of some kind and you (I) are too young (stupid) to know any better, its easy to form an attachment to what you have. Its the card you (I) were dealt (chose) so now you (I) might as well make the most of it, especially because you (I) want to look the better than everyone else for what you have.. bragging rights and all that stuff. After a while on computer cloud nine, young and stupid folk ( like I was ) will become zealously defensive of their chosen champion. The attachment is strong enough that many people will live in denial about it ( myself again ) for years after AMD started losing the war ( about the time intel released the core duo I believe ).
Eventually most people wake up to the truth.
I have no idea whats going on and that's the way I like it.
31 Dec 2012, 14:45 PM
#94
Posts: 1164
uhhhh. Don't fight hardware with me son you'll just hurt yourself
you're partially right... but you are wrong on the most important point (at least for germany, no idea about the prices in the US, so this is solely based on german prices)...
even the FX-8350 is cheaper than both the 2500k and the 3570k... let alone the cost for the rest of the system which is (usually) also higher for intel systems (also, i feel like it's comparing apples to oranges, since the FX-8350 is not the "best bang for buck" in the AMD portfolio, imho).
there's a few other smaller things that i don't like about the benchmarks (the settings and game choice, for example), or about intels policy of intentionally making programs run slower than they should on systems without intel cpus (skip forward to page 132).
in summary: intel is evil (for deliberately making things run slow on stuff that isn't from them) and amd is incompetent (for not being able to come out with a good cpu since the first 64bit processors)... i don't know which is better/worse, that's why i am not a fanboy for either company :-P
4 Jan 2013, 02:42 AM
#95
Posts: 61
I just upgraded to:
Asus P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 ATX $138.99
OCZ Vertex 4 128G SSD $106.88
Corsair Vengence 8GB DDR3 SDRAM $35.99
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 2GB GDDRAM5 $259.99
i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA $214.99
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Tower $71.99
Thermaltake Toughpower 675W Modular $59.99
ASUS DRW $19.99
Total $908.81
I already have an ASUS 21" Monitor
Fast as shit and this thing is so quiet, I am truly amazed.
Asus P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 ATX $138.99
OCZ Vertex 4 128G SSD $106.88
Corsair Vengence 8GB DDR3 SDRAM $35.99
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 2GB GDDRAM5 $259.99
i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA $214.99
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Tower $71.99
Thermaltake Toughpower 675W Modular $59.99
ASUS DRW $19.99
Total $908.81
I already have an ASUS 21" Monitor
Fast as shit and this thing is so quiet, I am truly amazed.
4 Jan 2013, 12:31 PM
#96
Posts: 50
anyone got any ideas on how to lower the fan noise on a stationary computer?
I tried getting additional fans, mostly because the CPU spiked to 77+ degree Celsius when I played Rage.
When chassis fans are at their lowest and the cpu fan is at it's lowest, the computer makes a decent amount of noise.
The Cpu fan is the standard coming with the i5 2500K (not overclocked)
The chassis fans are one 80mm fan and a 120mm fan.
any ideas for a cheap solution?
I tried getting additional fans, mostly because the CPU spiked to 77+ degree Celsius when I played Rage.
When chassis fans are at their lowest and the cpu fan is at it's lowest, the computer makes a decent amount of noise.
The Cpu fan is the standard coming with the i5 2500K (not overclocked)
The chassis fans are one 80mm fan and a 120mm fan.
any ideas for a cheap solution?
4 Jan 2013, 12:39 PM
#97
3 Posts: 368
While the geeks are assembled; are there any sites to rival Toms Hardware for solid info within reach of understanding?
/Uninstalled
4 Jan 2013, 13:09 PM
#98
Posts: 1582 | Subs: 4
The Cpu fan is the standard coming with the i5 2500K (not overclocked)
any ideas for a cheap solution?
Most likely your CPU cooler is the jet engine in your system. Never ever use a stock CPU fan. If you take a decent CPU cooler like for example the Scythe Mugen, it'll not cost you more than 30 bucks and the rounds per minute of the fan will never go above 1000, which you can barely hear. Temps will also stay at max 50-55°celsius under load, which ensures a longer life foryour system.
4 Jan 2013, 13:10 PM
#99
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double post -.-
4 Jan 2013, 14:16 PM
#100
Posts: 50
Thanks Sam, I'll look into it!
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