USF Mortar Halftrack & M1 Pack Howitzer Need Nerf

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 12:35 PMKatitof

Suggested fix to the problem:

Move

Ost MHT can do exact the same, but it kills.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 13:50 PMWittmann39

You are comparing a single incendiary round (45mun) to white phosphorous barrage(25mun)?
Plus, US truck has an additional option in delayed fuse barrage (25mun).
Nobody cant deny the fact that USF mortar halftruck is a better choice than ostheer counterpart, yet at the same price. A total imbalance.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 12:35 PMVipper

Imo one could try moving mortar to captain.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 13:55 PMKatitof

You going to ignore the fact that WP barrage -DOES NOT KILL- while incendiary DO?
You going to ignore the fact that delayed fuse is completely ineffective against infantry, unless you're blisfully unaware to what the timer on the ground that appeared suddenly is and its sole purpose is to poke at static structures?

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 13:59 PMEtherealDragon

I don't see how that would work. The whole reason the Mortar was placed in T0 was to give USF more diverse build orders and to help deal with MG42 in early game.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 14:07 PMDiablo

Yes but then the problem rises that Wermacht has to deal with rifleman without mg support an they just outclassed them. Of course getting a wehr mortar kind of works out but that is 240 manpower which is another grenadier and more map presence.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 13:42 PMGI John 412

USF mortar halftrack has relatively short range, low HP and is locked to a doctrine.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 14:13 PMKatitof

And getting a mortar means you have 1 less rifle to deal with......
Its always hilarious when people say that building X unit deprives them from Y unit, but it never seem to be the case for the opponent with more expensive units.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 12:29 PMthekingsown10

USF Mortar Halftrack

For only 25 munitions you can saturate an entire area with white phosphorus which very quickly reduces all units in the cloud to an hp of 1 .

To make matter worse you can't just run out of the way as it for some ludicrous reason has a slowing effect. It's arguably even better than late game artillery as 2 or 3 m21's will waste the entire area and even a nearby medic bunker at a cost of 150 manpower and 60 munitions isn't enough.

USF M1 Pack Howitzer


This units accuracy is a major problem its just far too high it feels like everything fired is laser guided. 1 of these will easily do as much damage as 2 mortars at much longer ranges.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 14:28 PMblvckdream

Pak Howi accuracy is not the problem but AOE profile is. Right now it does both constant damage and wipes like crazy. So it's OP indeed. Keep accuracy high but give it less close and mid range AOE so it becomes less deadly while keeping the far AOE the same so it constantly does damage without wiping.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 14:21 PMWiderstreit

You ever used Ostheers SdKfz. 250 moratar vehicle? lol US version is OP as fuck. xD



Mybe some Allii fanboys should start playing Germans. Play versus your team and you will see. ;D

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 12:35 PMVipper

Imo one could try moving mortar to captain. That would make Captain more attractive and bring LV play closer to OKW.