SOV: Move T-34/76 to T3 and make T-34/85 non-doc/T4

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2019, 11:43 AMFelinewolfie

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It's not an OP ability for the soviets to gain parallel production as I've
described, and it'd come in way handy, if they have an important loss of tanks
to make up for. Which happens more often to Soviets than Germans

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2019, 15:03 PMIncendiaryRounds

Doesn't T34 only come after p4 if you get a T70?

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2019, 19:05 PMcochosgo

Why would you not got for a T70?

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2019, 21:02 PMIncendiaryRounds

Why does SU deserve a faster t34 than p4 if he sank 70f into a t70 while Ost doesn't put any fuel into light vehicles. Use your brain dude.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2019, 21:32 PMcochosgo

That's a whole 'nother story. I honestly can't think of a situation when I would skip a T70 (or some light) in favor of a T34.

T34 its going to be outmatched in really fast, while T70 and Su76 can be usefull in later stages of the game not only by their combat performance in specific situations but also their utility abilities.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2019, 21:36 PMIncendiaryRounds

T34 is supposed to be outmatched by p4. If u don't like it get a doctrine which has doctrinal armor. Literally 75% of all SU docs have better doctrinal armor because of the fact that the stock T34 is outmatched.

If u think its fair to price a 4 hit kill tank just 20f more than a t70 in the same tech building..... I not gonna bother to talk to u anymore.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2019, 21:45 PMcochosgo

Read my earlier posts.

TL;DR
Move T34 to T3. Increase its fuel price so its a choice between inmediate firepower or a delayed "premium" light
After T4 is built, reduce its price back to 90f

I have stated my reasoning in said posts

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 08:09 AMWiderstreit

Hm... why not? But only it T34 hull-MG gets a hard nerf, it is bugged and has way too muj dps.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 08:33 AMKatitof

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Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 08:46 AMWiderstreit

Maybe you even don't know the bug? It shoots without animation.

Next, and it is OP too.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 09:41 AMWiderstreit

It has one MG with nearly same DPS as all 3 MGs of Panzer4 (upgraded). That is ok?

Because it is one weapon shooting on only one model it kills model per model way too fast. (E.g. german tanks will shoot many models at same time, reducing the hp but not kill). Also the AI performane of the main-gun is very good. Why such an op hull-MG? It isn't needed.

Edit: and it is buged too, makes damage even without animation.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 15:13 PMelchino7

Because the main gun performance is not good and instead of relying on cheesy random wipes, you get constant AI boost which can be nullified by vet, cover and retreat bonuses.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 16:06 PMWiderstreit

Then buff something else, but not make a broken hull mg xD That is retarded balancing and design.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 16:08 PMJae For Jett

Like what? Honest question. It's balanced as is, so if you think its power needs to be reappropriated, then where should it go?

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 16:10 PMWiderstreit

T34 has a pistol attack mechanism in its code. You can simply make a close range attack ability for some sec. to increase self-defense. That would be a better solution than making a broken hull-mg.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jun 2019, 16:25 PMJae For Jett

But why would it be better? I guess having its AI tied to an ability would differentiate it further from other mediums, but I don't know if that differentiation would be for the better. It would make the t34 bleed more munitions, have limited up time, or decrease its effective range, and I don't know why that should be the case.