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Half-trucks for OKW

5 May 2019, 09:17 AM
#1
avatar of VIGNASH

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We have seen almost every type of unit being cross-over across all factions but one particular unit is far out of the reach from OKW, the one and only 'Half-trucks'!

When are we going to see them with OKW (Mostly likely a non-doctrinal unit??)




Personal pref: Sd.KFs.250s Half-truck
5 May 2019, 09:33 AM
#2
avatar of Katitof

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You have opel blitz already.
And OKW isn't getting any completely new non doctrinal unit, unless you play a mod that does it.
5 May 2019, 10:19 AM
#3
avatar of Vipper

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The amount of pressure OKW infatry can apply if supported by HT is simply too much.

One could consider HT if one tones down the OKW infatry.
5 May 2019, 10:35 AM
#4
avatar of Widerstreit

Posts: 1392

Why not change Opel-Blitz with Sdkfz. 251 without MG42, closed version.

- simply little bit more HP and armor.

But it would look better.
5 May 2019, 11:49 AM
#5
avatar of Lago

Posts: 3260

You have opel blitz already.
And OKW isn't getting any completely new non doctrinal unit, unless you play a mod that does it.


The Opel Blitz is practically a dead ability. It costs as much as a proper halftrack, but has no armour and is unarmed.

The 250 would be a good replacement for it. Sticking Sturmpioneers in it would be pretty strong, but it comes out at 2CP and it means not going for OKW's more powerful doctrines.

Personally though, I think that halftrack Widerstreit designed that can hull down and deploy an anti-tank gun is the best use for that slot. Good synergy with the doctrine and not as boring as an outright Pak 40.
5 May 2019, 12:13 PM
#6
avatar of Katitof

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jump backJump back to quoted post5 May 2019, 11:49 AMLago


The Opel Blitz is practically a dead ability. It costs as much as a proper halftrack, but has no armour and is unarmed.

The 250 would be a good replacement for it. Sticking Sturmpioneers in it would be pretty strong, but it comes out at 2CP and it means not going for OKW's more powerful doctrines.

Personally though, I think that halftrack Widerstreit designed that can hull down and deploy an anti-tank gun is the best use for that slot. Good synergy with the doctrine and not as boring as an outright Pak 40.

Vipper already said why 250 is NOT a good replacement, why opel is perfect -FOR OKW- and why OKW can't have any stock one.

So unless you want OKW infantry to be neutered, you're not getting one.
5 May 2019, 13:37 PM
#7
avatar of Lago

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Vipper already said why 250 is NOT a good replacement, why opel is perfect -FOR OKW- and why OKW can't have any stock one.

So unless you want OKW infantry to be neutered, you're not getting one.


I don't agree with Vipper. The OKW Opel is terrible. Its aura has such a short range that you lose the halftrack if you try to use it so all it can do is skulk behind shotblockers. It plays like a 30 FU Ambulance without healing.

Replacing it with a 250 would be undeniably powerful, but at CP3 its counters are available and OKW already has the Flak HT/Luchs available. Furthermore, it'd be in the off-meta Feuersturm doctrine: unless it makes Feuersturm stronger than Overwatch/Special Operations it wouldn't be a net buff to the faction.

And if OKW really can't have a decent halftrack, replace that ability with something worthwhile. The Opel is a dead slot in an off-meta doctrine.
5 May 2019, 14:54 PM
#8
avatar of Vipper

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Just to clarify.

I have not claimed that the Opel is good, but that HT could prove to powerful for OKW and their strong infatry.
5 May 2019, 14:59 PM
#9
avatar of Lago

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jump backJump back to quoted post5 May 2019, 14:54 PMVipper
Just to clarify.

I have not claimed that the Opel is good, but that HT could prove to powerful for OKW and their strong infatry.


It'd definitely be strong, especially if it were a 250.

So you stick it in a comparatively weak doctrine like Feuersturm. Bam, good doctrine.
5 May 2019, 15:06 PM
#10
avatar of Widerstreit

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Again… Sdkfz. 251 without MG's, closes netting. Replacing the Opel-Blitz for Feuersturm.
5 May 2019, 16:15 PM
#11
avatar of Tiger Baron

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Again… Sdkfz. 251 without MG's, closes netting. Replacing the Opel-Blitz for Feuersturm.


Yeah something like the 251/8 Ambulance:



Could definitely work.
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