Intelligence Bulletins

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2012, 06:30 AMIpKaiFung

"As a competitive gamer the hardest thing to do is to acknowledge your mistakes and learn for them instead of making endless excuses." Daigo Umehara

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2012, 00:35 AMTexasRanger

Whoever plays better in that particular game... we're not robots and people make mistakes. Same answer in CoH as well, except that there's ALSO luck involved.

Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2012, 06:06 AMFeynmaniac

To give a good example of how luck simply can't be removed from strategy games and is an integral part of them wherever uncertainty is present, I just watched a vCoH replay where the Axis player had cleverly laid mines next to some heavy cover where his Volks were holding back some rifles. To extricate the Volks from their cover, the Allies player charged forward and dropped a grenade on his foe... triggering the mine and massacring all but one Volk!

The American player had no idea the mine was there and the Wehrmact player did not know his opponent had grenades. Later that same game a machine gun team ran past over some mines, which were simultaneously triggered by some riflemen, causing an explosion which slew the entire MG.

Jump back to quoted post27 Dec 2012, 23:45 PMRagingJenni

I think there is a difference between if you made a conscious move to do something, and the outcome was affected by luck, as opposed to making a conscious move and having the outcome depend on luck. If I place a mine and run over it and happen to get ambushed that was lucky of him (because he didn't know about the mine)

but if I place a artillery barrage perfectly infront of a blob and they still charge through with all the shots going wild, then I've done all that is possible within the realm of the game to make that artillery hit, but I still miss because luck said nope.

Most luck can be negated by proper planning, but some luck in this game (mostly crits and artillery) still play a bit too big of a role to make the game feel competitive.

Though I cant stress enough, luck and chance is something that makes CoH incredibly exciting. I utterly HATE games were you can measure everything and easily calculate how something will end. (Prime reason Blizzard games doesn't click with me)