su speed should be buffed up. they reduced it too much. too much. the tank can barely move now, cant chase the panzer 4 its top speed is meager.
LOL someone cant spam su85s all day long ... sniff sniff.
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su speed should be buffed up. they reduced it too much. too much. the tank can barely move now, cant chase the panzer 4 its top speed is meager.
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LOL someone cant spam su85s all day long ... sniff sniff.
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Grow up, "man"...
IMO, the Su-85 really has been toned down a bit too much. It's pretty much the only unit that can (and should) deal with Ostheer armour.
1vs1 seems ok, but in 2vs2, Su-85 spam has turned into Panther spam. I just wish they can finally get the spam fixed. On both sides. Maybe you can name a soviet tank that you fear in game...
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Grow up, "man"...
IMO, the Su-85 really has been toned down a bit too much. It's pretty much the only unit that can (and should) deal with Ostheer armour.
1vs1 seems ok, but in 2vs2, Su-85 spam has turned into Panther spam. I just wish they can finally get the spam fixed. On both sides. Maybe you can name a soviet tank that you fear in game...
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i think the main problem is that the nerfs were progresive. first the nerf on the focused sight then the total speed nerf. both nerfs made the sight skill unusable offensively (perhaps this was intended) and the tank got to a point were it cant be used withouth a doctinal unit, severly limiting its viability. just seeing the recent spotlighted 2v2 game tells you about the su maneuvering problems
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1vs1 seems ok, but in 2vs2, Su-85 spam has turned into Panther spam. I just wish they can finally get the spam fixed
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Can you read, dude?
All you do is throw around cheap insults, making yourself seem like a fanboy. You make me laugh...
Also, I do not play soviets only. And I never spammed SU-85... where do you get your information from, kiddo?
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The real problem in this game I see with Blitzkrieg ability, not the regular speed.
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Think of the SU-85 as an armored anti tank gun. With the highest range of any non-doctrinal vehicle in the game and decent armor it should have only slightly better chances of escaping than a Pak or Zis. If you don´t support it in the first place, that´s your fault. If it got any mobility back, the gun-range would have to be decreased. It can still excel at it´s job if you use it as an AT-gun.
The Panther on the contrary - in this game - has been made to flank it seems. Thus it needs the speed. It has less range than a SU-85 and therefor needs to drive up close. If the Panther was to get a decrease in speed, it´s gun range should be tuned up to more believable range (aka 60) to distinguish it from a Panzer IV.
The Panther had a speed of 55km/h btw. compared to the Panzer IVs 38km/h - so why shouldn´t it be faster?
The real problem in this game I see with Blitzkrieg ability, not the regular speed.
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The only problem with Panther I have is:
Panther with damaged engine + blitz
SU85 close control
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Think of the SU-85 as an armored anti tank gun. With the highest range of any non-doctrinal vehicle in the game and decent armor it should have only slightly better chances of escaping than a Pak or Zis. If you don´t support it in the first place, that´s your fault. If it got any mobility back, the gun-range would have to be decreased. It can still excel at it´s job if you use it as an AT-gun.
The Panther on the contrary - in this game - has been made to flank it seems. Thus it needs the speed. It has less range than a SU-85 and therefor needs to drive up close. If the Panther was to get a decrease in speed, it´s gun range should be tuned up to more believable range (aka 60) to distinguish it from a Panzer IV.
The Panther had a speed of 55km/h btw. compared to the Panzer IVs 38km/h - so why shouldn´t it be faster?
The real problem in this game I see with Blitzkrieg ability, not the regular speed.
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