why Rangers dont have any utility skill?

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 12:42 PMddd

The problem is someone in balance team was bored and decided to destroy the only standing out feature of rangers, damage reduction.

Now you can be sure that this great "rework" will bring some problems while previously rangers were in a good spot.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 12:53 PMSander93

What problems? The only thing the changes did was to remove the squad's lower vulnerability to AOE weapons, which had no place in the game since it was neither thematic nor communicated to the player.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 12:53 PMSander93

What problems? The only thing the changes did was to remove the squad's lower vulnerability to AOE weapons, which had no place in the game since it was neither thematic nor communicated to the player (unlike Shocktrooper armor for example that is shown cosmetically).

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 13:10 PMddd

The DMG reduction was very thematic as Rangers are supposed to charge at enemy positions alongside Pershing (Combined Arms ability suggests this use of Rangers) and they need to get close to do some damage, having DMG reduction was helpful to avoid being blown up by random tank or mortar shell.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 13:10 PMddd

DMG reduction wasnt communicated to players... And how is vetted JLI insane received accuracy communicated to players? Maybe make them ballerinas jumping around?

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 13:23 PMSander93

If that was their intended theme, shouldn't the damage reduction only have applied when near an armored vehicle (or just the Pershing)? And with combined arms being the only relatable theme, the similarly named ability itself is enough.

All infantry squads in the game get lower received accuracy as they vet up. JLI are nothing special, besides getting a lower value than average. But it's still the same mechanics that are at work. On top of that, JLI received accuracy veterancy bonus is communicated in the veterancy description that every player has access to (though admittedly Relic's descriptions aren't the best).

This is not comparable to a hidden damage reduction modifier that isn't shown in the game nor is it mentioned anywhere in the Rangers' unit descriptions (again unlike Shocktroopers, whose descriptions mentions they use light body armor).

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 13:10 PMddd

The problem is that you felt the need to remove it in the first place. Rangers were not causing any issues, at the same time they were doing their job just fine.
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Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 13:58 PMVipper

Because they had a cost reduction and they where simply too cost efficient.

The idea behind cost reduction is probably so that people can afford built more of them, so instead very expensive very strong units you get less strong less expensive unit similar to the changes to obers.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 14:05 PMddd

This actualy makes sense for a bad idea change. Last thing anyone needed was more Rangers on the field. One strong CQC squad to break some defenses was ideal, no need for changes there. Their cost was justified too. These are some changes just for the sake of changes.

I repeat my idea for balance team:

Use unique Ranger skin from game files, apply your changes to that squad, add it to new commander under new name. Leave heavy cav Rangers as they are.