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Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2019, 05:15 AMblancat

flamenade -> rears

grenade launcher -> rifles

there is no reason rifles use flamenade

and if rears get grenade launcher, rear spam will be back again

Jump back to quoted post11 Apr 2019, 17:37 PMsherlock

After a couple more games, I start to question the design of having both regular grenades and "molotovs" for rifles both for 30 munitions and both tied to the grenade upgrade. One doesn't really offer much over the other, which is probably why there are no units with both. And since both are tied to tech, you automatically gain access to both. If molotovs were not tied to tech, then at least, they'd offer a cost saving option in terms of tech cost. Otherwise there are very few situations where one would wish for a molotov over a grenade.

The throw range of the molotovs does not seem to be affected by vet (needs verification).

I also noticed that the grenade bulletins (cheaper and increased range) do not work for the molotovs, this is likely owed to the mod character, but should probably be changed/fixed for the final version, IF molotovs are to remain a feature for riflemen.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 05:30 AMLoopDloop

Ever tried to nade an infantry squad in a garison? they just laugh and hop out and hop back in 1 second later. Incendiaries on the other hand at least deny the building for a bit. Clearing garrisons with direct fire as USF is a bitch and a half and I love to have any sort of flame weapon to help with that.

IMO if it really is statistically a molotov (stated in the patchnotes IIRC) it should cost 20 like a molotov though. Throw animation is shorter but conscripts have oorah and rifles don't, so IMO it balances out in terms of performance.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 14:29 PMJibberJabberJobber

What's wrong with making rifle molotovs techless? Pointless to make it 30 munitions otherwise.

Conscripts pay less munitions because they have to pay for the tech, unlike OKW.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 15:07 PMVipper

Imo mainline infatry should not have access to anti garrison tools (yes that goes for VG also).
That gives other units utility and thus increases diversity.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 15:33 PMJibberJabberJobber

Garrisons are an annoying gameplay mechanic anyway (as in: too strong). Unless they made going point blank range counter garrison cover, I don't mind flame nades.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 15:07 PMVipper

Imo mainline infatry should not have access to anti garrison tools

Move rifle grenades to Riflemen

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2019, 13:14 PMddd

?

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2019, 13:23 PMVipper

If the choices is between having incendiary grenades for riflemen and Rifle grenades for R.E. or the opposite this later is much better especially if it takes up all weapon slot for riflemen.

Currently R.E. with rifle-grenades are more a like more mobile mortar.

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2019, 13:25 PMddd

Ah so its better because its worse for usf? Gotcha.

Jump back to quoted post18 Apr 2019, 22:04 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

Thanks for finally making the Rangers third slot worth a damn, Balance Mod Team!

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2019, 16:25 PMMrBananaGrabber.

When they have three zooks are they three more powerful zooks or just standard ones?

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2019, 17:09 PMSander93

They get the elite bazookas now (if they pick up bazookas from the rack), which deal 20 more damage and have 30 more penetration on all ranges.