Vickers need suppression

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 04:03 AMSerrith

Give vickers an activated ability that temporarily increases suppression but reduces accuracy like volley fire. Give it a low 10 munitions cost. Thus you keep the unique attributes of the vickers but give it the ability to perform like a standard mg on call for a nominal fee.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 03:31 AMkingdun3284

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Conclusion, Retarded play is encouraged (on one side) and is cheaper.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 07:19 AMVipper

And once more that is an issue of VG not of vickers, because if do the same test with another infantry squad vickers will stop them before lobbing a grenade

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 07:24 AMkingdun3284

So when is the volks nerf comes out?

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 07:25 AMVipper

it should come out the same time that penals get a nerf

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 07:51 AMkingdun3284

so now three penals can take down a vicker frontally or throwing flame nade to kill a full vision mg frontally that have to be nerf like volks?

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 04:20 AMkingdun3284

Now a basic functionality become a luxury? No more vet 1 AT nade or replication of maxim.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 15:17 PMthedarkarmadillo

A timed ability is better than no capacity to suppress, but let's not lock it behind vet please, it's a shitty thing on the maxim having to vet to be able to halfway suppress let's not make the same mistake on the vickers please

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 15:19 PMVipper

Many of the abilities should scale with veterancy, maxim ability falls under that category. For instance reload time before the ability takes affect could be lowered with veterancy.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 18:51 PMthedarkarmadillo

But then we fall into the same category as cons-if they get wipedgg because no vet means it's barley even usable.

Edit don't get me wrong, I LIKE timed abilities, but basic use shouldn't be behind vet. Make the sustained fire non vet and I'm on board

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 21:38 PMSerrith

I would think non vet would be the way to go as well. Sustained fire from maxim and suppressive fire for vickers are either too important or too weak to be vet. This is in contrast to the mg42 incendiary rounds which are extremely powerful and are not needed for the mg42 to perform in its basic role.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 18:51 PMthedarkarmadillo

But then we fall into the same category as cons-if they get wipedgg because no vet means it's barley even usable.

Edit don't get me wrong, I LIKE timed abilities, but basic use shouldn't be behind vet. Make the sustained fire non vet and I'm on board

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 23:59 PMVipper

I don't get you wrong don't worry.

The ability could be moved to VET 0 and rebalanced so that it scale with veterancy. That could also be solution for things like volley fire.