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In fact, all dedicated AA platforms should have this performance.
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T34 85 needs to have slightly less AI. It's shells are basically on par with Sherman HE yet it does everything.
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I tried to tell the world that all u need is AA and look at the ground, some just don't wanna understand !
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Quad AA is simply OP with the current system, it can shoot down loiter planes on entry without firing a single round.
Generally speaking the planes systems need an overhaul and its is really weird that only definitely good change from Fall balance preview which was the changes in planes mechanics has not make it live while most of the other ones have slowly crept in to live.
looks like its just an ability specific quirk that the first ju87 doesnt enter the map on attack, all other loiters enter on attack phase.
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Just make all AA designated vehicles a.k.a. NOT PINTLES, insta gib planes as quickly as the M5 quad. Literally would not even care if that bomber could disintegrate armies for 300 munitions if I didn't have AA and didn't move. Move + get AA = no problem.
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Go test it. It will not.
Only if units go outside the base sector and then go back in can they get tracked.
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Why do you keep saying this like it's fine? And don't say because all loiters do it, I'm of the opinion all loiters should be gone, or at the very least reworked heavily. This "extra range" phenomena being a big reason
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where in his post is he implying that its fine? hes simply stating the facts that units inside the base sector wont be targeted.
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imo the only faction that has weak AA is ostheer, both USF and OKW flak hts work pretty well from my experience, and the quad is the best by far. the centaur has a problem with slow turret rotation but once it gets on target it shoots down the plane pretty quickly. the ostwind has a pretty slow rate of fire compared to the other AA vehicles so it doesnt shoot down as fast but itll still do the job USUALLY.
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Quad AA is simply OP with the current system, it can shoot down loiter planes on entry without firing a single round.
Generally speaking the planes systems need an overhaul and its is really weird that only definitely good change from Fall balance preview which was the changes in planes mechanics has not make it live while most of the other ones have slowly crept in to live.
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Its funny you bring this up, You're forgetting the OKW Flak HQ Used to completely nullify any air support. Not to mention the Base AA flak used to do so as well.
To the best of my knowledge, this was only fixed recently.
No Tier building should be able to essentially nullify any air strike call-ins.
an AA HT is just that, an ANTI-AIRCRAFT Halftrack. I personally don't see a problem with how it is, since if you get it in the early stages, it sets your heavier armor back a notch, and is usually required you HAVE to tech in to it.
Im almost certain the OKW Flak HT does the same, as does the ostwind, but im not entirely sure of those statistics.
Although I once saw a 76mm sherman shoot an Aircraft out of the sky. That shit was Hilarious
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Its funny how you bring up what used to happen before December 2017 as if it has any relevance with the current situation.
Compare the AA capabilities of the Quad with any other AA weapon you will find them far superior.
What I have posted is that AA capabilities need an overhaul (some units AA is to high and other too low) and critical kill system of planes should be replaced.
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That depends on how you define "superior".
As a sidetech, It SHOULD be superior, you're not going to put STGs or LMGs on Obers or Valks only to find NOT give you an advantage. In addition; as someone has already stated, it comes as a vulnerable light vehicle and requires you to upgrade it.
The pre-patch is still relevant, whether you agree or not. OKW Actually did take any Air support call-ins off the table, especially the lend-lease drop-seen as it has to come over the enemy base, and now that its gone, people suddenly start all the AA hate because it does what its meant to do.
Although, I wholeheartedly agree the OSTWIND needs a buff, Maybe a small one, but a buff none the less.
And I think the changes to the planes (essentially making them paper planes) was probably a little too much, I mean seriously, they have the durability of a paper plane in water.
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It shoot planes way faster than any other AA weapon, it can shoot down both loiter planes of stuka loiter at first pass before they even fire a single shot. That is how I define superior.
(the rest you mention is simply irrelevant)
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Independently than if it does it better than other AA, is it good or bad?
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