The Overwatch Problem

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2019, 13:30 PMLago

If you think Sector Assault is substantially more powerful than a normal loiter, then we agree.

If you think Sector Assault is about the same as a normal loiter, then we disagree.

If you're hypocritically quibbling over tangents, then you're wasting everyone's time.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2019, 13:53 PMLago

When did I say the standard loiters were underpowered? They're incredibly powerful.

We seem to have different intepretations of 'soften up'.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2019, 21:50 PMJae For Jett

The short answer: No, garands are a close range weapon.

The longer answer: (Individually) Kars heavily eclipse garands at long range. Garands pull slightly ahead at close range. This is because (to my understanding) kars and the other bolt actions have a wind down time of 1.3 seconds that the garand doesnt have, meaning the garand has does have a higher rate of fire and pulls ahead in DPS even though it does half of the damage per shot. Garands ARE a close range weapon (relative to other rifles due to *cough* relative positioning). Of course theyre not true close range weapons like smgs are though.

So in terms of pure profile, theyre a mid range weapon. In terms of performance relative to what theyre likely to be facing, theyre a close range weapon - the closer the better against kars.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2019, 09:28 AMSander93

No, the plane will not drop bombs if there is no target for it to track. It will just loiter until the ability is over. It will not drop bombs randomly and it will not track units that are (visible) in the base sector.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jan 2019, 17:11 PMSander93

What you are saying is impossible. The plane literally can not drop the bombs without a target. It will never randomly drop bombs if it doesn't have a target. Go test it.

If it did drop bombs somewhere, that means it had a target that it was tracking.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jan 2019, 17:11 PMSander93

What you are saying is impossible.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 20:04 PMSkysTheLimit

Read my last post again and check the patchnotes. With a scatter of 80, which it very recently had, it was absolutely possible for shells to land in the middle of nowhere, FAR from the originally tracked unit.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 21:26 PMSander93

I'm replying to your original claim that 'the plane can wipe entire armies in base because of the huge radius' which isn't true because it won't track units in base sectors no matter how big the radius is. Then you proceeded to claim the ability 'seems to drop a whole bunch of random shells all over the place at the end' which isn't true either since it won't drop ordnance without having a target.

Now suddenly you claim it was before the patch and because of the 80 scatter the ability had. Indeed back then no one on the entire map was safe and the bombs could drop well outside the radius because of the tracking combined with the scatter. But that doesn't happen anymore.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2019, 22:24 PMSkysTheLimit

I've seen this thing wipe squads in people's base sectors because the actual radius is freaking huge

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2019, 06:47 AMSkysTheLimit

What do you mean suddenly? Try reading that post again jerk, you just completely mischaracterized it:



"I've" is a past tense. I'm sorry that my game experience from before a VERY recent patch got mixed up with the current. Would appreciate you being less of a dick about it. It's a very specific bit of knowledge, it's not like I screwed up the basics of the entire game. I missed one line in the patchnotes....

Oh and what exactly is the purpose of ignoring all the other posts in the conversation and just focusing on the original comment? Throughout the conversation I was trying to figure out what I saw with the ability, and your suggestion about tracking was not it. I was looking for why I had seen the shells falling wildly, which I eventually found out was cause of 80 scatter. I hadn't seen the ability recently

What's the part about that evolution that you need to be attacking me for? I'm hardly making a substantial claim about much at all