So people are still okay with Sturmpios?

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2018, 05:04 AMShadowLinkX37

Yep. Playercard?

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2018, 08:28 AMThe amazing Chandler

What an argument, especially when it comes from a moderator (spokesman)from this site. Keep it up man, that will encourage people to join this site and this community.

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2018, 09:09 AMelchino7

Asking for a playercard shouldn't be an automatic feeling of been attacked. Not like it can be changed at this point. There's 2 ways of interpreting it, which people will always go for the more aggressive route (ad hominem).
It should be basically an A/S/L question. What faction you play, what rank you are playing at, what mode you are playing, what's your experience.

If playercard was to be forced on the balance section it would avoid this issues and you would see who really just wants to attack other people first hand.

Ontopic: OKW starting with Kubel was tested, it was shot down.

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2018, 07:23 AMsluzbenik

From a design perspective, no, they're not ok. From a balance perspective they are ok.

They're irritating little gremlins. Would have liked to have seen OKW start with an MP40 volks squad, or some combination of short and mid range infantry units that would be balanced vs the other factions, but Lelic thought a gremlin troll squad would be more fun.

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2018, 05:01 AMdhkdeoen

Battle of 25mp reinforcement units


So what bothered me since OKW revamp was; why Sturmpio was still given unit?

OKW does not suffer from lack of resources anymore, Volks are good(maybe too good) for their price since it became 250mp unit with STGs(I still don't know why Thompson is so tabooed compared to STGs. Wolfenstein stuff I guess)

can't they give Kubel or Volks for starting unit? why does OKW gets free assault unit in the first place?

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2018, 12:40 PMVan Der Bolt

I think sturmpios are pretty much fine. Yes, they give OKW good starting pressure power, but they are counterable, and expensive. Losing them early is a heavy blow to OKW build up. Allied player should always keep in mind where SP are and focus them down first, for they have good DPS.

But since the volks are pretty strong now, maybe givind OKW volks as a first unit (and +50 start MP) will work good? In this way OKW player will actually have to decide wich unit to get. For what i see now - in 80% games OKW just continiously get volks.

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2018, 09:31 AMGreyKnight93

I would say that you're wrong on the design perspective. Keep in mind that this game is design on Asymmetric Level. Each units are forcing your opponent to constantly rethink their end of the strategy or else the whole gameplay wouldn't be interesting.

This is not chess where everything should be the same at the beginning, and Sturmpioneer is the forefront idea of the unit design. They may look intimidating at the early stage, but if you are smart enough to know it's range effective and avoid it's kill zone, you can fight back that expansive unit. This is in form a reward for the ally units to outplay those unit. Heck i've seen early game Conscript can fought off Sturmpio if u know how to keep it's range away from your unit.