Give me back MP44 Storm Rifle upgrade option

i DON'T want the mp40 free upgrade
Its a bad idea for elite unit
Why paratroopers, rangers have thompson and stormtroops cannot have mp44???
Should we change rangers & paratroopers to m3 grease gun upgrade?
We rarely see wehrmacht having mp44 ( only PGs have mp44 now)
We DON'T need another mp40 clone in wehrmacht
arty officer, assault grenadiers, pioneer and now stormtroopers??
seriously????
why stormtroopers cannot equip storm rifle
regular troops like vg can upgrade 2 mp44
it doesn't make sense

Stormtroopers could deal damage to allies elite troops from previous patch
For now? when i see shocktroops coming? retreat
paratroopers? retreat
rangers? retreat
guardtroops? retreat
even riflemen, tommies with LMGs upgrade
Stormtroopers are top 3 highest cost in game( 1 st Fallschirmjägers, 2nd ober)

Rangers (400/5 men/80/30 reinforcement) can upgrade thompson for 90 munitions
paratroopers (380/6 men/63.3333/28 reinforcement) can upgrade thompson for 90 munitions or 2 LMGs for 120
guard troops (380/6 men/63.3333/27 reinforcement) can upgrade 2 lmg for 80 munitions

Stormtroopers(340/4 men/85/33 reinforcement) have NOTHING, done.


Stormtroopers should have their own weapons storm rifle, mp40 doesn't fit them
keeping mp40 free upgrade is fine, but i don't think people use it
JUST ADD back the mp44 STORM RIFLE upgrade with bundle grenade option for 100 munitions , removes flame nade,smoke after MP44 STORM RIFLE upgrade.
This revamp is definitely a downgrade

try checking the stats of the weapon the name does not mean allot

If you want STGs, get PGs.
Sturmtruppen now have a specialized role.

Well, stormtrooper mp40 has very good stat, it is not inferior to mp44. But yeah, I think they could give them free mp44 rather than this much powerful mp40. I liked the sound of mp44 firing.

Stormtrooper SMGs have much higher stats than Pioneer SMGs.

The difference is they're short range units rather than mid-range units, like Commandoes or cloaking Shocks.

Stormtroopers work like infiltration commandos in current patch, I think smg fits better for their new roles. Besides, their mp40 is much better than assault grens'.

If you want front-line infantry who can stand toe-to-toe against allies' elite, try panzer grens.

Well, stormtrooper mp40 has very good stat, it is not inferior to mp44. But yeah, I think they could give them free mp44 rather than this much powerful mp40. I liked the sound of mp44 firing.

Range: 0 - 5 - 10 - 15 - 17 - 25 - 35
4x stormtrooper mp40's: 74.76 - 74.76 - 74.76 - 28.68 - 9.80 - 2.87 - 0.40
4x stormtrooper stg44's: 61.97 - 61.97 - 47.54 - 36.87 - 33.8 - 20.1 - 4.22
4x assgrenadier mp40's: 39.40 - 39.40 - 39.40 - 13.04 - 7.05 - 2.70 - 1.08

It is wrose than mp44 starts at 10 meters

mp44 doesnt need free upgrade, its fine for 100 munitions

why allies close range units are good cause they have 1-2 extra men
but mostly, axis squad units have only 4 men, after you losing 1 it means you reduce 25% firepower and then force retreat

the game wont let you hide forever, especially 4v4, people will start avoiding you after you did one successful ambush

assault grenadiers are good in early game, why no one picks them, they are nothing late in the game

stormtroopers are top 3 highest cost in game. They should have reasonable performance.

MP40s is comparable to Grease guns, not Tompsons

i pick stormtroopers with stg44 cause they are true elite troops
PGs run slower and have wrose performance than stormtroopers(stg)
Just like you wont only spam stormtroopers in OKW

Range: 0 - 5 - 10 - 15 - 17 - 25 - 35
4x stormtrooper mp40's: 74.76 - 74.76 - 74.76 - 28.68 - 9.80 - 2.87 - 0.40
4x stormtrooper stg44's: 61.97 - 61.97 - 47.54 - 36.87 - 33.8 - 20.1 - 4.22
4x assgrenadier mp40's: 39.40 - 39.40 - 39.40 - 13.04 - 7.05 - 2.70 - 1.08

It is wrose than mp44 starts at 10 meters

mp44 doesnt need free upgrade, its fine for 100 munitions

why allies close range units are good cause they have 1-2 more men
but mostly, axis squad units have only 4 men, after you losing 1 it means you reduce 25% firepower and then force retreat

the game wont let you hide forever, especially 4v4, people will start avoiding you after you did one successful ambush

assault grenadiers are good in early game, why no one picks them, they are nothing late in the game

stormtroopers are top 3 highest cost in game. They should have resonalbe performance.

MP40s is comparable to Grease guns, not Tompsons

i pick stormtroopers with stg44 cause they are true elite troops
PGs run slower and have wrose performance than stormtroopers(stg)
Just like you wont only spam stormtroopers in OKW

Infiltration commandos are 4-man squads and extremely expensive, too. Please just use stormtroopers like infiltration commandos.

The reason that OKW don't spam sturmpion is they are too fragile not too slow. They lack the "Receive Accuracy Reduction".

'they are infiltration squad, so they should remove mp44.'
it doesn't make sense
In fact, rangers are scout units(omaha beach they cost a lot), paratroopers land behind enemy lines.
they are not frontline troops.
We don't want to rename Panzergrenadiers as 'Chargers'
all we have to know, Elite troops have better equipment with better training. So they have better performance than reuglar troops
but now, coh2 is telling us stormtroopers is a joke. They have good training but trash equipment. Like Star Wars prank


MP40s is comparable to M3 Grease guns, not Tompsons

'they are infiltration squad, so they should remove mp44.'
it doesn't make sense
In fact, rangers are scout units(omaha beach they cost a lot), paratroopers land behind enemy lines.
they are not frontline troops.
We don't want to rename Panzergrenadiers as 'Chargers'
all we have to know, Elite troops have better equipment with better training. So they have better performance than reuglar troops
but now, coh2 is telling us stormtroopers is a joke. They have good training but trash equipment. Like Star Wars prank


MP40s is comparable to M3 Grease guns, not Tompsons

Man, this is a game not real life. Developers need to consider gameplay and balance issues.

Btw, Sten SMG is trash in real life, but commandos use them anyway.

The reason Developers removed STG from stormtrooper is STG makes stormtroopers' role overlap with PGs' role in the game. It is basically a gameplay reason.

Infiltration commandos are 4-man squads and extremely expensive, too. Please just use stormtroopers like infiltration commandos.

The reason that OKW don't spam sturmpion is they are too fragile not too slow. They lack the "Receive Accuracy Reduction".

PGs are fragile like stormpioneers. they mostly get rekt by rangers & paratroopers who are cheaper
Yes, they are better than regular troops.
but no, they aren't elite.

I mean wehrmacht is totally done, took out elite guns of the last and the only one elite unit. nothing can counter allies elite

PGs are fragile like stormpioneers. they mostly get rekt by rangers & paratroopers who are cheaper
Yes, they are better than regular troops.
but no, they aren't elite.

I mean wehrmacht is totally done, took out elite guns of the last and the only one elite unit. nothing can counter allies elite

You were honestly going stormtroopers every game?
The pgrens stgs were identical to the stormtrooper stgs, the only benefit to stormtroopers was the tactical ability and that you could call them in. Otherwise nobody got them over pgrens.

Do sturmtuppen cost 380(+20) and 90 munitions to arm?

Man, this is a game not real life. Developers need to consider gameplay and balance issues.

Btw, Sten SMG is trash in real life, but commandos use them anyway.

The reason Developers removed STG from stormtrooper is STG makes stormtroopers' role overlap with PGs' role in the game. It is basically a gameplay reason.

But PGs are really bad. stormtroopers deserve to fight better than PGs. they need 100 munitions to upgrade stg.

paratroopers, rangers they are almost the same. Just rangers are stronger, but paratroopers have extra man

So should we ban paratroopers LMGs and change to free upgrade M3 Grease guns x6 from Tompsons upgrade??

removed stg is a very bad idea, developers

For this reason, I don't play wehrmacht now

You were honestly going stormtroopers every game?
The pgrens stgs were identical to the stormtrooper stgs, the only benefit to stormtroopers was the tactical ability and that you could call them in. Otherwise nobody got them over pgrens.

Honestly, i run elite troops every game every faction.

+1 stg upgrade is much better, cant believe they removed it when trying to "buff" the unit.

"I don't want new weapon, because I'm ignorant of its stats" the thread.

I completely agree who would ever want a unit that can approach totally cloaked (especially late game with yellow cover craters everywhere) and can annihilate squads up close in mere seconds ??!!
It was much better when they were just Panzergrenadier clones instead of having these pioneer MP40s

"I don't want new weapon, because I'm ignorant of its stats" the thread.

Hahahaha, but we talk seriously.

its not funny

Honestly, i run elite troops every game every faction.

Why do I get a feeling this is a troll thread?

PG's are basically pre-patch Stormtroopers with slightly worse RA, use them

Also if you run l33t tr00ps 24/7 you should know about that G43 upgrade which gives you weapons very similar to STG's and costs only 60 muni.