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Relic dont care about this game mode.
The map list is the same for years.
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I've been saying for about a month new maps are coming, and a new map was put in rotation less than a two months ago. Also the huge update that just happened. Plus not to mention the huge tournament they are funding, and the donation to GCS2. How do they "not care"?
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Read again:
Im saying about 4v4. They dont care (this a fact) about 4v4 and this mode is the most played in automatch.
4v4 dont receive the same attention as 1v1 and 2v2 from Relic.
So GG Relic.
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Balance is not the only thing for 4v4. Maps is a big thing too.
The last new map added for 4v4 was Hill from MonoBacon in 2015 ( I think). This is disgusting.
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city 17 now?
and as tric said.
I looked into some 4vs4 maps from AA and co, but they were terrible from balance and gameplay in automatch.
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City 17 is one of the first maps in the game. Dont make jokes here.
And AA maps is not the only Relic maps outhere. Theres s lot of community maps ready to play for casual players (like you said).
Are you using my suggestion about AA maps to attack me this discussion????
You are a terrible unnoficial community manager, like others in the past. Who only thinks in their personal agenda.
Pede pra sair gringo safado.
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Yeah I think there was an old discussion about making the larger 4v4 maps have the same number of resource points as 1v1/2v2 and just make their zones larger to compensate for the high amount of players. The biggest issue in 4v4 is that the mid-game goes very quickly and t3/t4 rushes are the best bet because of the resource gain.
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How many players play in 4v4 and 1v1? Keepo
Coh2 is not game for elite meta mastrubate callin warriors, its for all players, who will be buy next coh if Relic care about mediocre players in 4v4? PauLa, Prodi, Price?
If its not competitive game mode or if relic care about it, why thay dont write official? No balls? Scary about money?
Its realy very stupid and sound like rasist when players who have wooden PC and play 1v1, blame players who have good PC and play 4v4, like fun game mode. Ye, its look like, 4v4 have more ways to make combinations with units, docs. But ye, we are elite coh 1v1 and 2v2 players that care about 4v4 plebs, nice one guys.
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The decemberpatch 2017 was focused on 4vs4.
But yes most changes are for 1vs1, tho are good in 2vs2-4vs4 too.
Jackson buff, ele and JT nerf in past
now brumbär and flamerhft and t70 nerf.
so this is for 4vs4 as well
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It isn't that bad sure they might be issues with some starting positions where you should rush certain positions where WFA factions usually have a better time, there are highly coordinated teams that might play against way lower ranked single players, there probably will always be maps where forward retreat points are easy to abuse (WFA factions again) on the other hand some maps are pretty open and facour sniper play and light vehicles EFA factions and brits profit from that the most.
In case you mean that there are huge imbalances between axis and allies and the game turns unwinable as either side after a certain mark (25min) you should maybe try to improve your own playing as it is certainly not.
I mostly play 3v3 both with randoms and a team and 4v4 from time to time in teams as i prefer the 3v3 mappool and dynamic gameplay compared to clustered chokepoints and even worse artillerypartys.
Incase you have troubles playing as allies which quite often is the case with people that complain about imbalanced teamplayer modes you could watch this replay of a game that lasts way longer then the 25 minute mark:
https://www.coh2.org/replay/83335/80-min-slugfest-on-la-gleize
or you are welcome to upload a replay (or even more) of your own, contact me and i will watch them and might give you some hints where you did mistakes and how to improve.
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Many maps have the same amount of ressource points with somewhat larger areas (5 standard 1 fuel and 1 ammo per side) with some exceptions but the resource gain can be boosted pretty easily especially on maps where certain areas are hard to attack without light vehicles as retreat paths take quite some time (General Mud is a good example).
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Imbalance is basically just a part of 4v4, its almost impossible to balance considering the interactions between teammates. Things that have obvious weaknesses in 1v1 or 2v2 work in 3v3 or 4v4 because you have 2-3 teammates to cover those weaknesses.
IMO general mud is a perfect example of too big. Map is not fun at all to play. And yeah caches is much easier in 3v3 and 4v4 since a lot of the back points will never see any fighting.
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4v4 doesn't receive the same attention because it is a casual mode, is far above and beyond impossible to balance properly
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Personally, I really appreciate your help. I as myself do not have any trouble beating the axis in the late game. There was one game I played lately last more than 70 mins, and I still won even though my team was 3 vs 4. And, as my personal opinion only, I think 3vs3 compare to 4vs4 is actually more different than 2vs2 compare to 4vs4.
The reason that I said I am sick of 25 mins mark is because it is really passive and unnoticeable but hugely affect the gameplay experiences regardless of your effort output. As a very experienced player, and I believe you are too, know that allies should put out everything they have in the first 25 to 30 mins to win the game or the game will be very hard and not in your favor at all. However, for those who do not aware of this, will mostly fall into this trap passively due to the fact that most of the players who play 4v4 are there hoping to see a very chaotic battlefield and huge tank battle. And it is extremely not fair for them to lose a game due to the imbalance of the game.
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