Clearly..why does they count as builiding, while it works exactly like other "emplacements units" like pak43 or artillery.
brit emplacments can:
- use abitys (like pak43) (unlike schwerer from OKW = is building)
- can be command where it has to shoot at (like pak43) (unlike schwerer from OKW = is building)
- they even get vet (like pak43) (unlike schwerer from OKW = is building)
- doesnt show stats in statistics after game (unlike pak43) (like schwerer from OKW = is building)
They even cost popcap! = UNIT
They doesnt show up in statics...because of "building" but why are they buildings? Why cant we see their performanche?
Someone know?
What makes brits emplacment to a building?
30 Nov 2018, 08:51 AM
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30 Nov 2018, 16:58 PM
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Because they're different.
Are you asking for all factions, all units to be alike?
As in mirror stat factions in every way ?
Yes! Say Yes!
People complain the Soviets are useless.
Well, they are useless if you fight your units 1vs1. But they are all about Synergy.
What do I care if you have a Panther? Once you are crippled from running over a mine
I wait until you repair it with your 3x SturmPioneers and tell my 3x Mortars to fire at it.
did you know Vet 1 Mortars get FLARE?!
- 900 Manpower down the drain. - Panther still can't move worth a damn.
Well, they are useless if you fight your units 1vs1. But they are all about Synergy.
What do I care if you have a Panther? Once you are crippled from running over a mine
I wait until you repair it with your 3x SturmPioneers and tell my 3x Mortars to fire at it.
did you know Vet 1 Mortars get FLARE?!
- 900 Manpower down the drain. - Panther still can't move worth a damn.
30 Nov 2018, 17:02 PM
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Because they're different.
Are you asking for all factions, all units to be alike?
As in mirror stat factions in every way ?
They working and are exactly same like other emplacements unit. Tell me one other Building which can get vet ...but doesnt shown in stastitc.
U cant answer "because they are different" without saying whats the differenz is. Looks like u dont know what u cant say anything usefully...but want to say something...
30 Nov 2018, 18:20 PM
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Are you asking why UKF buildings have veterancy?
Because Relic gave them veterancy.
Because Relic gave them veterancy.
30 Nov 2018, 18:23 PM
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Are you asking why UKF buildings have veterancy?
Because Relic gave them veterancy.
And gave them abiltys and gave them the possibilty to command them where to shot? Yeah...make a Building the same like a unit instead using all functions from available units...
Sounds like a dumb plan.
30 Nov 2018, 18:55 PM
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And gave them abiltys and gave them the possibilty to command them where to shot? Yeah...make a Building the same like a unit instead using all functions from available units...
Sounds like a dumb plan.
Maybe.
Relic designed UKF to have emplacements as part of its army: they even appear as passives on the tech buildings. They're meant to be high investment emplacements you protect rather than throwaway stalling tools like bunkers, hence Brace and Veterancy.
In practice, that led to SimCity strategies, so it wasn't great for competitive multiplayer CoH 2.
The compstompers loved it though.
30 Nov 2018, 20:22 PM
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And gave them abiltys and gave them the possibilty to command them where to shot? Yeah...make a Building the same like a unit instead using all functions from available units...
Sounds like a dumb plan.
Pop cap cost was also given, its not ost bunker which you can spam all around the map you know.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
30 Nov 2018, 23:22 PM
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UKF emplacements are not buildings. Relic created a whole new category/type of units for them. You can simply call them emplacements. Mind that all the non-movable units that came before brits were categorised as infantry.
Now I'm not sure why they made it that way, but it is clearly a deliberate choice.
Now I'm not sure why they made it that way, but it is clearly a deliberate choice.
1 Dec 2018, 08:06 AM
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When Brits in CoH2 were introduced, the british emplacements were decrewable. They had then the same white border like abandoned pak43 for example. But as axis, you couldn't recrew it. I can imagine that Relic had no clue how to fix it and just turned them into buildings. 
3 Dec 2018, 18:54 PM
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Pop cap cost was also given, its not ost bunker which you can spam all around the map you know.
UKF emplacements got vet. But they got popcap. Because Relic did it that way.
OST emplacement MG bunkers don't get vet but they have 0 popcap.
They're both OP in their own way.
Yea, they're different.
Are you saying they should be the same?
Are you saying you want british emplacements to be 0 vet like MG bunkers...
... But to also be 0 popcap?
Please. PLEASE say this is what you want
Please say you want
People complain the Soviets are useless.
Well, they are useless if you fight your units 1vs1. But they are all about Synergy.
What do I care if you have a Panther? Once you are crippled from running over a mine
I wait until you repair it with your 3x SturmPioneers and tell my 3x Mortars to fire at it.
did you know Vet 1 Mortars get FLARE?!
- 900 Manpower down the drain. - Panther still can't move worth a damn.
Well, they are useless if you fight your units 1vs1. But they are all about Synergy.
What do I care if you have a Panther? Once you are crippled from running over a mine
I wait until you repair it with your 3x SturmPioneers and tell my 3x Mortars to fire at it.
did you know Vet 1 Mortars get FLARE?!
- 900 Manpower down the drain. - Panther still can't move worth a damn.
3 Dec 2018, 19:11 PM
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Posts: 173
Werhaboo in nutshell
>sees tread about brits emplacements
>immedeatly starts talking stuff like "L2P", "playercard plz", "muh ASSimetrical gameplay"
>totally forgets that he have even more uncounterable stuff like free mg-s all over the field, good AI-sniper, AT capabilities from very start of the game
>keeps being all edgy and post-ironical
>OP just want to see statistics for brits emplacements to be sure, that they are really so cancerous as werhaboo says
>sees tread about brits emplacements
>immedeatly starts talking stuff like "L2P", "playercard plz", "muh ASSimetrical gameplay"
>totally forgets that he have even more uncounterable stuff like free mg-s all over the field, good AI-sniper, AT capabilities from very start of the game
>keeps being all edgy and post-ironical
>OP just want to see statistics for brits emplacements to be sure, that they are really so cancerous as werhaboo says
11 Jan 2019, 11:02 AM
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I loled after i realizes that even the flak emplcemnt from OKW is in the statistics! And it cant get attack ground, have no vet and is definitly a building... when this building can be in stastistic...why not brits "buildings"?
11 Jan 2019, 11:43 AM
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I loled after i realizes that even the flak emplcemnt from OKW is in the statistics! And it cant get attack ground, have no vet and is definitly a building... when this building can be in stastistic...why not brits "buildings"?
Because brit emplacements do not shit units out of them?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
11 Jan 2019, 12:49 PM
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Because brit emplacements do not shit units out of them?
You mean the t4 schwerer truck building from OKW. I mean the flak emplacement which can be build with the right doctrine.
11 Jan 2019, 15:22 PM
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Katidoof getting rekt by ullumulu...glorious day lol
11 Jan 2019, 16:55 PM
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I don't think not understanding someone who is speaking vaguely about two similar structures = "rekt", but eh.
11 Jan 2019, 18:49 PM
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Posts: 1096
Katidoof getting rekt by ullumulu...glorious day lol
Are we reading the same thread here?
11 Jan 2019, 21:16 PM
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Posts: 1740
I really only want to see my emplacements in the post game stat screen. So underwhelming when wrecking as Brits.
It is though God by command has withdrawn every other throne.
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
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