About soviet shock troops in WWII

Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2018, 14:25 PMTobis

I just want to point out from that Katitof quote, the Soviets were the ones attacking the city for a significant portion of the battle, once the axis had occupied it.

Jump back to quoted post21 Oct 2018, 00:56 AMLemonJuice

shocks can be just as defensive though, especially on close quarters areas, it can be almost impossible for infantry to take points if there are shocks hiding behind shot blockers.

Jump back to quoted post21 Oct 2018, 08:51 AMVipper

Shock troops in real life and through out history are by definition offensive oriented units yet I am pretty sure that in occasion they found themselves defending positions and probably very effectively since they where elite troops.

Jump back to quoted post21 Oct 2018, 15:23 PMLordRommel

But soviets had no shock infantry in ww2. They had shock armies (reenforced armies for breakthrough offensives).
Your "ingame shock units" are CQC-Specialists. Relic had named them for unknown reasons "shock troops" but they are nothing compared to historical "shock units" like german ww1 Stoßtruppen or other "shock units".

Jump back to quoted post21 Oct 2018, 08:51 AMVipper

I guess that in your opinion assault grenadier fit Ostheer "Defensive Doctrine" and shock troops the Soviet "Defensive Tactics" for the same reason, although I respect your opinion I happen to have another.

Shock troops in real life and through out history are by definition offensive oriented units yet I am pretty sure that in occasion they found themselves defending positions and probably very effectively since they where elite troops.

The real issues with shock troops in "urban defense" are not the names. I have explained them in feedback thread.

Jump back to quoted post21 Oct 2018, 23:47 PMelchino7

Can't remember but does Ass Grens have smoke nades? (reworks gets confusing). 6 man with armor and smoke have a bigger defensive capabilities. Smoke a VP and force them to come to you if they want to dislodge you.