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What if the Allied factions actually had good MGs?

3 Sep 2018, 10:12 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Sep 2018, 10:01 AMKirrik

Sov has inferior non-doc roster and requires doctrines to function
USF is forced into bad choices in teching
UKF is UKF


Ostheer's vulnerability to AoE was dealt with by the squad spacing patches.

Soviet hasn't required doctrines to function since WBP buffed Conscripts, buffed Penals and gave Soviet T1 AT weapons.

USF and UKF aren't in the best state, but OKW is in line with SOV and OST.
3 Sep 2018, 10:20 AM
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1 Nov 2018, 06:46 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Sep 2018, 01:50 AMCODGUY
Does anyone remember what that was like? I wonder what it would be like now if the maxim, .50 cal and Vickers didn't suck and could actually surpress infantry. Right now that ability is only for Axis.


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Back in the days when Maxim was T2 and MG42 was 3 men and T1,
Maxim deployed fast, could sprint, and supressed hard. And was 240 manpower!
(so was MG42)

Many Axis players howled and cut their wrists or hanged themselves.
Since 83% of players play exclusively axis, Relic had to act and fast, or lose most of
their players. So they had to nerf .50 cal, Vickers, Maxim and DHSK.

And add a model to MG42 and DOUBLE the arc of MG42.

And the rest is history.
It's not a balance thing.
it's a not lose all their Axis player sort of thing.

19 Nov 2018, 02:44 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Sep 2018, 09:30 AMKirrik
How is vickers and maxim failing to do the only goddamn thing you build them for is L2p issue? Are wehraboos are completely delusional?
And dont bring up MG34, that thing is last minute decision from lelic that made OKW into a faction with no weakness or drawbacks at all


mg34 is 10x better faction design than the old move while suppressing kubel wagon. That and literally the only doctrine used was Falls for the mg34.
19 Nov 2018, 05:59 AM
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IMO, Vickers is superiour MG due to its ability to actually KILL models, not supress them. It acts like sniper rifle in row of machine-guns.
The only advantage MG42 have is its higher RoF>higher suppression rate, but who need suppresion, when you can easily outflank him due to no-brain positioning most of the time.
Axis needs their MG's to survive throughout early game with no light mg's, light tech and some other basic stuff. Allies - don't. If you still need mg to deal with early game as Allies - l2p.
26 Nov 2018, 00:39 AM
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IMO, Vickers is superiour MG due to its ability to actually KILL models, not supress them. It acts like sniper rifle in row of machine-guns.
The only advantage MG42 have is its higher RoF>higher suppression rate, but who need suppresion, when you can easily outflank him due to no-brain positioning most of the time.
Axis needs their MG's to survive throughout early game with no light mg's, light tech and some other basic stuff. Allies - don't. If you still need mg to deal with early game as Allies - l2p.


Y'know what you can do to a vickers? Run inf up through the entire arc and throw a grenade at it.

Y'know what you can't do to a MG42?
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