Opinion on new IS-2?

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2013, 13:48 PMcomputerheat

...so, has anyone found a good way to work the IS-2 into their game? I haven't had a chance to use one (like, ever, actually. Maybe once in the beta)

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2013, 09:08 AMNullist

How many times did u fire panzerfaust in total, 100 deflects versus how many penetrations?

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2013, 14:16 PMAbdul

Actually that is very "called for" because as your comments indicate, you don't use the unit. Reading stats of some source is not the same.

As for why your comment is "uncalled for", its because no body brought up that issue except you, and you did so to ARGUE.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2013, 17:27 PMNullist

As has been pointed out, there is nothing wrong with Faust penetration/deflection.

I'm not the one "arguing" that there was.

I'm also not the one claiming to have seen 10-15 Fausts sequentially penetrate IS2s, at a 0.2-0.0003% probability.

Its working fine.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2013, 23:48 PMtimujin.il

the is2 alone isnt what make it great. it is great because:
1) it can be self repaired / accompanied with guards and their abilities
2) it can be defended against tiger if the tiger is winning by ramming a t34
3) it is usually supported by mines because soviets usually float loads of ammo in late game.
4) it can cap points on vet 1, very useful for recaping center in long games when most inf is dead on both sides

elefant is the real only problem this tank has i think.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2013, 23:57 PMEndeav

Shock rifle frontline doesn't get guards nor self repair, armored assault doesn't get any elite infantry whatsoever.

Unless you mean team games, in which IS-2 is quite different.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2013, 19:17 PMUGBEAR

near doubled rate of fire and Greater durability, and 40MP/40FU cheaper, that's the problem

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2013, 17:27 PMNullist

Its working fine.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2013, 13:23 PMRidiculous

You know this from your 75 whole games? 1 as the soviets? And none under the current patch?

Play more. Post less.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2013, 13:41 PMNullist

Yes. I do.

One person claiming to have witnessed a 0.2-0.0003% probability occurrence is not a valid balance position.

Whats your ladder page?

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2013, 10:15 AMpanzerjager2

IS2 has more armor than Tiger and its anti infantry capability is a billion times better than tiger while being more or less similar in AT so the 40mp/40 fuel increase is actually more than balanced.

Just try running a panzer gren squad against an is2 and watch in disbelief when it 1 shots the entire squad. The Tiger can never do that to any soviet squad except snipers.

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2013, 03:39 AMUGBEAR

And JS-2 is not the only one overpriced, both for T-34/85 and BrownBAR, Panther may need change to 520MP/140FU, but in terms of cost-effectiveness, Panther surpass any soviet tank

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2013, 04:16 AMwooof

what the hell is a brownbar? brumm =/= brown. i dont know why you keep insisting on saying the is2 should be equal with the tiger. they have different roles. tiger is better vs armor. is2 is better vs inf. build su85s if you want to kill armor.

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2013, 04:24 AMUGBEAR

Build a Tiger is you wang to kill JS-2, build a Tiger if you want to deal with SU-85, build a Tiger is't not bad for AI, build a Tiger, it's Cheaper.

Your logic: Stop complaining about tank which is 40MP/40FU more expensive than a Tiger, and stands no chance fight a Tiger, and can barely handle a Panther which is half of the price of it.
Just because this end game unit and the most expensive heavy tank has more AI? Reminds me the old German fanboi story of "T-34/76 is fine for it can kill infantry......."

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2013, 05:01 AMwooof

is2 has 5 aoe and 2.86 distance scatter. brummbar has 5 aoe and 1 distance scatter. notice anything similar? want to know why theyre similar? its because the is2 is for killing infantry. now lets look at tank destroyers. su85 has 1 aoe and 7.5 distance scatter. elefant has .5 aoe and 10 distance scatter. notice the much smaller aoe and much bigger scatter. thats because tank destroyers have very different roles. stop using an is2 to kill tanks.

using your flawed argument, brummbar is a heavy tank thats more expensive than the su85. why does it lose to the su85? if you want to argue that the is2 needs a new role, thats a whole different story. arguing it should beat a tiger based on cost is pointless.

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2013, 07:46 AMUGBEAR

STOP USING JS-2 TO KILL TANKS? STOP USING A MOST EXPENSIVE HEAVY TANK TO KILL TANKS?

Arguing a most expensive heavy-tank SHOULD loss to another cheaper heavy tank, or even a tank which cost half of its fuel is pointless.

AI ability in a late game warfare compensates little how it does in terms of AT role!

STOP USING "IT CAN KILL INFANTRY IT'S FINE" ON A MOST EXPENSIVE HEAVY TANK IN GAME