Lend-Lease Numbers

For a mod I am currently working on, I researched which US weapons and vehicles that are available in COH2 were sent to the British Empire and USSR under the Lend-Lease Agreement and in what quantities. Most of the information I have gathered comes from these documents.

The first column lists the designation of the model present in COH2, while the second line lists other models that have (or might have) been sent as well. Please note that not everything in this list was actually used in combat: Some equipment was modified (Kangaroo Carriers, anyone?), some was sent to other countries (such as British Dominions) and some was simply stored.

Anyway, I thought this might help with British commander designs for the upcoming contest! Further information and corrections are, of course, always appreciated.

Small Arms

Model in COH2	Other Models	British Empire	USSR
M1911A1 Pistol	M1911	39592	12997
M1A1 "Thompson" Submachine Gun	M1928A1, M1, TMC, Reising*	651086	137729**
M3 "Grease Gun" Submachine Gun		0	0
M1 Carbine	M1A1, M2	25362	7
M1 "Garand" Rifle		38001	1
M1918A2 Browning Automatic Rifle		204	0
M1919A6 Light Machine Gun	M1919A4	17631	5403
M2HB Heavy Machine Gun		5233	1
M2 Flamethrower		0	0
M9 "Bazooka" Rocket Launcher	M1, M1A1	2127	3000

Support Weapons

Model in COH2	Other Models	British Empire	USSR
M1 Anti-Tank Gun***		4242	400
M1 Pack Howitzer		802	0
M1 Mortar		555	2540

Grenades and Mines

Model in COH2	Other Models	British Empire	USSR
Mk 2 "Pineapple" Fragmentation Grenade		1075800	0
M9A1 Anti-Tank Rifle Grenade	M9	1629110	0
M23 Smoke Rifle Grenade		0	0
M6 Anti-Tank Mine		0	0
M7 Anti-Tank Mine		0	0

Light Vehicles

Model in COH2	Other Models	British Empire	USSR
Dodge WC-51 Truck	WC-52	10884	24902
Dodge WC-54 Ambulance		644	0
M20 Utility Car		0	0
M8 "Greyhound" Light Armored Car		496	0
M3A1 Scout Car		6997	3340
M3 Halftrack		2	2
M21 Mortar Motor Carriage		0	0
M15A1 Combined Gun Motor Carriage	M15	0	100
M5A1 Halftrack	M5, M9	5238	420
M17 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage ("M5 Quad")		0	1000

Tanks and Self-Propelled Guns

Model in COH2	Other Models	British Empire	USSR
M5A1 "Stuart" Light Tank	M5	1391	5
M8A1 Howitzer Motor Carriage		0	0
M7B1 "Priest" Howitzer Motor Carriage	M7	832	0
M4 "Sherman" Medium Tank, 75mm Gun		15256	2007
M4 "Sherman" Medium Tank, 76mm Gun		1335	2095
M4 "Sherman" Medium Tank, 105mm Howitzer		593	0
M10 Gun Motor Carriage*****	M10A1	1648	52
M36B2 Gun Motor Carriage*****		0	0
M26 "Pershing" Heavy Tank	T26	6	1

Aircraft

Model in COH2	Other Models	British Empire	USSR
P-47 Thunderbolt		825	203
C-47 Douglas		2035	708

* The document only lists "Cal .45 Submachine Guns" without further distinction. From what I have gathered, the numbers include a large number of Thompson SMGs and a smaller number of Reising SMGs. The Grease Gun was not sent under Lend-Lease.

** The USSR received M1928A1 Thompson SMGs together with M3 Stuart Light Tanks. However, the SMGs were not widely used because the Red Army feared ammunition shortages for the .45 ACP round, among other reasons.

*** The M1 AT Gun is the US designation for the British 6-pounder.

**** The M23 and M23A1 Smoke Rifle Grenades actually only produce green, red, violet and yellow smoke and were used for signaling.

***** I'm not entirely sure if the Wolverine in COH2 is an M10 or an M10A1. If it is an M10, then the Jackson is an M36B2. If it is an M10A1, then the Jackson is an M36. Both use the same chassis.

Here is some information about British shipments to the USSR.

M2 Flamethrower - None

Why then this thing exist in UKF Mobile Assault Regiment?

Why then this thing exist in UKF Mobile Assault Regiment?

Because Relic didn't have the time or resources to make the Lifebuoy Flamethrower

great work would it possible a similar one with UKF items given to Soviets and USF (or produce under license).

Wait did the US actually send Britain 651,081 thompsons?

Wait did the US actually send Britain 651,081 thompsons?

Brits didnt even have an SMG at the start of the war. They were makin Stens in a hurry alongside forgotten weapons such as Lancaster or Sterling
Am I right?

Brits didnt even have an SMG at the start of the war. They were makin Stens in a hurry alongside forgotten weapons such as Lancaster or Sterling
Am I right?

I don’t have a lot of knowledge on the topic but I seem to recall that the sten was created as a cheap, easy to manufacture smg after the BEF had to retreat from France and left a ton of their weapons and equipment behind. But that’s a ludicrous amount of Thompsons in context of how many other small arms they were sent by the US, especially considering that the Thompson is fairly expensive and high quality as far as smgs go (when compared to like the grease gun, sten, or mp40).

Wasn’t the sterling made in like the 50s or 60s? Could be thinking of another smg or something though.

Wait did the US actually send Britain 651,081 thompsons?

Yep! The weapon-of-choice for British Commandos was actually the Thompson, and it even appears on their insignia! The Sten was only standard issue towards the end of the war (which is when CoH2 takes place anyway), but given a choice, I bet that Commandos would still opt for the Tommy gun if available.



That being said, it would be cool to see a Tommy gun upgrade on Commandos!

Yep! The weapon-of-choice for British Commandos was actually the Thompson, and it even appears on their insignia! The Sten was only standard issue towards the end of the war (which is when CoH2 takes place anyway), but given a choice, I bet that Commandos would still opt for the Tommy gun if available.



That being said, it would be cool to see a Tommy gun upgrade on Commandos!

Yeah I do recall that. Thompsons on commandos might be a little OP if it was more than like 2 though XD

It just still seems like a staggering number of submachine guns seeing as most infantry used rifles anyway.

In the source I have linked, the Thompson is not explicitly listed. It says "Submachine, Cal. .45, All Types" with 880195 sent in total. Of these, 651086 were sent to the British Empire (so that might include Canada, Australia, NZ and others) and 137729 to the USSR. However, the only other SMG the US produced in large numbers was the M3 (Grease Gun), but as far as I know, it wasn't used by the British or the Soviets - leaving only the Thompson.

great work would it possible a similar one with UKF items given to Soviets and USF (or produce under license).

I just added numbers for US equipment sent to the USSR. Here is a little information about British equipment sent to the USSR, but I can't find exact numbers at the moment. It is worth noting, though, that British tanks were mostly sent during the earlier years of the war - the late-war Valentine and Churchill models present in COH2 were probably not sent there. The article also mentions Reverse Lend-Lease (shipments to the US), but I haven't been able to find much more information yet. I do know that large quantities of Lee-Enfield rifles, Bren LMGs and Boys AT rifles were manufactured in the US, but probably exclusively for British and Canadian use.

USSR get 1 M26 in april 1945 for testing. Source: https://warspot.ru/9851-tank-tyazhyolyy-ponevole (include screns of soviet documents about M26 and his photo in Kubinka)

USSR get 1 M26 in april 1945 for testing. Source: https://warspot.ru/9851-tank-tyazhyolyy-ponevole (include screns of soviet documents about M26 and his photo in Kubinka)

Oh, I didn't know that! The article says it's a T26E3, right? I'll add it to the list.

Oh, I didn't know that! The article says it's a T26E3, right? I'll add it to the list.

Long story short - USA choose T26E3 as serial M26, but soviets though, that serial was T26E1, and designate it as prototype. USA send fully production model with registration number 30119961. IOW sended to the USSR T26E3 fully equal to regular M26 for USF.

I want to inform, that there is no M14 MGMC in the game. But there is M16 MGMC and M17 MGMC

M16 was sended to UK in total number of 2.
M17 was sended to USSR in total number of 1000.

Source: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/LL-Ship/LL-Ship-3A.html
Looks like here is correct information lend-lease for USSR. It match with information, which i saw in articles of russian historian Yuri Pasholok. Usually, he using information from Central Archives of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation.

I want to inform, that there is no M14 MGMC in the game. But there is M16 MGMC and M17 MGMC

M16 was sended to UK in total number of 2.
M17 was sended to USSR in total number of 1000.

Source: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/LL-Ship/LL-Ship-3A.html
Looks like here is correct information lend-lease for USSR. It match with information, which i saw in articles of russian historian Yuri Pasholok. Usually, he using information from Central Archives of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation.

Thanks, I fixed it. It was a typo and because of that I looked up the wrong numbers
There's only the M17 in COH2 though, right?

Interesting. M3 Halftracks sent to UK/USSR: 2 each?
More like Super Special Weapons Regiment.

Also I should point out that apparently some of the Soviet skins cover the M3 halftrack but because it's so ahistorical I'd vote against it anyway

Thanks, I fixed it. It was a typo and because of that I looked up the wrong numbers
There's only the M17 in COH2 though, right?

M16 based on M3 Halftrack. M17 based on M5 Halftrack.
And M16, and M17, presented in the game, but have fully same 3D-Model, because somebody created M3 Halftrack model without possibilty to upgrade it with quad, because of that was used model from soviet M5 Halftrack.
You can find M16 in calliope doctrine as upgraded M5

Interesting. M3 Halftracks sent to UK/USSR: 2 each?
More like Super Special Weapons Regiment.

Also I should point out that apparently some of the Soviet skins cover the M3 halftrack but because it's so ahistorical I'd vote against it anyway

M3 and M5 looks close to each other. Source: http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/halftrackm5.html

Actually, both models in the game are M3 Halftrack, soviet one is littlechanged M3 model from vCoH.
Iirc new model from WFA should be used for guard shocks from lendlease doctrine, but was changed to M5 for some reason. i tried to push the idea to replace all M3/M5 with model from WFA and added quad Upgrade to it, but Relic decided to take shitty soviet model and move it to USF.

M16 based on M3 Halftrack. M17 based on M5 Halftrack.
And M16, and M17, presented in the game, but have fully same 3D-Model, because somebody created M3 Halftrack model without possibilty to upgrade it with quad, because of that was used model from soviet M5 Halftrack.
You can find M16 in calliope doctrine as upgraded M5

The units in the actual game are often named incorrectly - therefore this thread deals only with the available models in the game files. Since the model with the quad-mounted .50 is based on the M5, I would say it's an M17 and simply named incorrectly in the Tactical Support Company, even though the M17 wasn't used by US forces, as far as I know.