conscript veterancy and their lack of weapon upgrade

Jump back to quoted post24 Jun 2018, 19:52 PMTobis

It still works if they pick up other dropped lmgs. Commandos will fire the ober lmg34 on the move, normal troops will not.

Jump back to quoted post24 Jun 2018, 21:37 PMroll0

If ostruppen can be given a MG42 upgrade I don't see why cons can't have a single DP for 45muni with t4.

It has much lower DPS than the 42 so would still stay balanced with high con accuracy at vet 3.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 00:54 AMF1sh

When cons pick up a dropped LMG42

Jump back to quoted post24 Jun 2018, 14:19 PMMittens

Long story short:

Grens and volks get long range weapons as well as grens getting upgraded longrange.


Rifles/Cons/penals (stock/core inf) dont get long range but get compensated with more men......But that means you'll lose 1 man on approach to be combat effective, 2 after you get into cover less you get flamenaded or riflenaded.


The problem is that these units lack the long range firepower (without m1919 but even that is trash now) and or lack fair compensation for having to get in close.


IMO either a cost reduction to reinforce or simply making them harder to hit (slight adjustment, nothing large) might make them easier to close the distance to be combat effective meaning we can leave vet alone.

Jump back to quoted post24 Jun 2018, 14:19 PMMittens

Long story short:

Grens and volks get long range weapons as well as grens getting upgraded longrange.


Rifles/Cons/penals (stock/core inf) dont get long range but get compensated with more men......But that means you'll lose 1 man on approach to be combat effective, 2 after you get into cover less you get flamenaded or riflenaded.


The problem is that these units lack the long range firepower (without m1919 but even that is trash now) and or lack fair compensation for having to get in close.


IMO either a cost reduction to reinforce or simply making them harder to hit (slight adjustment, nothing large) might make them easier to close the distance to be combat effective meaning we can leave vet alone.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 18:51 PMLoopDloop

That's why you use multiple squads together. Leapfrog them between cover or just move up the one who isn't being shot (which usually results in leapfrogging as people tend to shoot the closer squads) or even better, come in from the flank as well. I think rifles are fine as is. I have no opinion on cons as I don't use them much, but that's how I would probably use them too if not as meatshields for maxims.