GCS2 Barbarossa faction win rate

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 13:05 PMCieZ

Yeah, that's fair. I don't know that I'd tone down double LMGs any more though. They're already the worst upgrade in the game. Maybe nerf IS vet a bit instead? If you tone them down more, I don't think they'll be worth it.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 13:13 PMblvckdream

I dont get why the Brit AT gun would have to be nerfed. It´s just right as it is.

It´s a Pak 40 clone that has to fight heavier armoured vehicles than the Pak 40. It often fails to penetrate as is, making it any worse would be a very bad idea. The 6 pounder also has worse vet than Pak40.


There is no way Brens should be nerfed more either, they arent even good.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 14:14 PMDangerous-Cloth

I rather think the problem with tommies being too good when they get a snare is their double lmg 5 men bolstered performance. They become absolutely too durable in that stage. Unfortunately, without adjusting the other things mentioned, they almost have to be.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 14:14 PMDangerous-Cloth

Pak 40 has to fight IS2 too, which has the same armor as the KT.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 14:42 PMKatitof

When was the last time you have seen IS-2 used by anyone?
Do people even remember how it looks?

You're much more likely to see high armor axis vehicle then allied one(unless you count KV-1 here as well as that's pretty decent one).

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 14:42 PMKatitof

When was the last time you have seen IS-2 used by anyone?
Do people even remember how it looks?

You're much more likely to see high armor axis vehicle then allied one(unless you count KV-1 here as well as that's pretty decent one).

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 14:14 PMDangerous-Cloth

Pak 40 has to fight IS2 too, which has the same armor as the KT.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 14:42 PMKatitof

When was the last time you have seen IS-2 used by anyone?
Do people even remember how it looks?

You're much more likely to see high armor axis vehicle then allied one(unless you count KV-1 here as well as that's pretty decent one).

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 15:39 PMCieZ

https://www.coh2.org/replay/81049/playing-okw-against-sov-increases-blood-pressure

Armored Assault is one of the most popular Sov commanders currently.

IS2 is used a lot, probably saw play in GCS last weekend but I didn't watch every game.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 15:46 PMShadowLinkX37

I think the IS2 is used more due to axis TDs lacking pen rather than the IS2 being good.... That and the possibility it can RNG wipe squads.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 16:01 PMCieZ

Just pointing out Katitof isn’t necessarily up to date on the state of 1v1s with a statement like he made.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 16:53 PMFelixTHM

How did the myth of the "terribad IS2" even begin anyway? KT armour with much better mobility and turret traverse makes it super hard to kill.

Sure, I agree that it's the worst heavy tank offensively, its scatter and reload are bad. But it costs far less than KT and it doesn't have the KT's horrible immobility and turret traverse - it's an excellent spearhead tank.

It's a perfect complement to Soviet T3 play, and high ranked streamers use it/encounter it fairly often.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 16:53 PMFelixTHM

How did the myth of the "terribad IS2" even begin anyway? KT armour with much better mobility and turret traverse makes it super hard to kill.

Sure, I agree that it's the worst heavy tank offensively, its scatter and reload are bad. But it costs far less than KT and it doesn't have the KT's horrible immobility and turret traverse - it's an excellent spearhead tank.

It's a perfect complement to Soviet T3 play, and high ranked streamers use it/encounter it fairly often.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 16:53 PMFelixTHM

How did the myth of the "terribad IS2" even begin anyway?...

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 14:58 PMVipper

PLS explain which, in you opinion, is a high armor value.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 10:14 AMDangerous-Cloth

It would be interesting to hear from the actual players that played the Brits last weekend or played against them. However, they always seem to avoid these threads like the plague.

Perhaps create a thread especially for them?

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 21:01 PMKatitof

I'd say pretty much everything that has at least 30% chance to bounce ATG shot at max range.
But that's how I'd evaluate that only.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 21:16 PMShadowLinkX37

Well for the USF AT gun that isn't much at all No but really that'd be like anything more than and including the KV-1.