Has anyone seen this? :))

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 16:56 PMUGBEAR

they only change the scatter

Updates for June 13th, 2013

IS-2:
- Armor from 400 front/200 rear to 375 front/225 rear
- Pop from 14 to 16
- Health from 1280 to 960
- Price from 560mp/210fuel to 680mp/300fuel
- Reload time from 8.25s to 9s
- Scatter from 10m to 7.5m
- Acceleration increased from 1.5 to 2
- Rotation rate increased from 25 to 30
- 1 in 6 chance of 5 second crew shocked critical on target deflections
- Penetration increased from 110 to 140
- 25% of the shell’s damage is applied on non-penetrating rounds against enemy armor.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 15:39 PMUGBEAR

The shoot explodes at it's rear

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 17:44 PMNullist

Doesnt mean it may not be bugged.
Depends where the shot trajectory is projected from.

If its from the end of the barrel, it may be hitting the front armor, rather than the rear, due to the two units overlapping

Can you stop being such an asshole?

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 13:20 PMNullist

ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND?

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 17:44 PMNullist

Can you stop being such an asshole?

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 17:00 PMPurlictor

They also gave it slightly less health and more firepower, among other things:

From the changelog thread, post #7



Worth noting too is that the tiger rear armor went up, as Endeav said. I think the buffs more than make up for the increased rear armor though, especially since they decreased the tiger's front armor. Despite that, the IS-2 is still a crappy tank for the gigantic amount of resources you invest into it.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 17:00 PMPurlictor

They also gave it slightly less health and more firepower, among other things:

From the changelog thread, post #7



Worth noting too is that the tiger rear armor went up, as Endeav said. I think the buffs more than make up for the increased rear armor though, especially since they decreased the tiger's front armor. Despite that, the IS-2 is still a crappy tank for the gigantic amount of resources you invest into it.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 18:54 PMAlbus

Way to misquote, genius. This was the change made to the IS2 in the closed beta, a good couple of months before the video was taken.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 14:58 PMEndeav

| | | can_harm_shooter: false;

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 19:07 PMEndeav

Tiger's time to kill an IS-2 shooting it in the front at point blank is: 88.72 seconds or 14.61 shots (15)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApmrrrPr20ncdEdSU29vWTR4b2dYWEJNdnZvb09xWlE#gid=0

IS-2's time to kill a tiger shooting it in the rear at point blank is: 101.45 seconds or 11.94 shots (12)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApmrrrPr20ncdFJ2MkNJTV9Pbk9CSDkwTXZJLXp2THc#gid=0


The tiger has more hp, more (rear) armor, more penetration and reloads 3 seconds faster than the IS-2.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 20:10 PMNullist

So 2.67 shots, in 12.73s.

Hardly unbalanced, considering other asymmetric differences.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 20:10 PMNullist

So 2.67 shots, in 12.73s.

Hardly unbalanced, considering other asymmetric differences.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2013, 17:44 PMNullist

Can you stop being such an asshole?

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2013, 04:06 AMlink0

This the probably the most retarded discussion I've seen yet on this forum, and I've seen some dumb shit.

The Tiger should beat the IS-2 because it's an AT focused tank while the IS-2 is an AI focused tank.

HOWEVER, that comparison is meaningless in discussions of whether the IS-2 needs a buff (I believe it does). The only discussion that matters is whether a unit is COST EFFECTIVE.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2013, 04:08 AMEndeav

The discussion isn't whether or not the tiger should beat the is-2.

The discussion is that the tiger beats the is-2 with the tiger firing into the front armor of the is-2 while the is-2 is firing into the rear armor of the tiger.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2013, 04:30 AMlink0

Who cares? The IS-2 is not cost effective right not, but it's not because it loses horribly to a Tiger.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2013, 04:30 AMlink0

Who cares? The IS-2 is not cost effective right now, but it's not because it loses horribly to a Tiger.