mortar team balance

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2013, 07:43 AMMauser

This thread is about 120mm being able to retreat at one man, whereas other mortars cannot. That's it.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2013, 07:25 AMMauser

Ok so here is my concern

• German mortar is 4 man, which was a good change imo, but you still only have effectively 3 men, cos the last guy abandons it.

• The thing that irritates me is the soviet 120mm. You can kill 5 guys and it still retreats with one man, wheeling that fucker out of there. Why is it like this and do you guys think it is balanced? If so, why?

• What about the regular russian 82mm mortar does the last guy retreat with the mortar or abandon?

PS:

• I know the 120mm has wheels but it is big, and must weigh a lot not to mention the heavy shells. Surely one guy can also carry the 80mm german one.

• I also know that it is doctrinal, but it is still a mortar, and should function the same as other mortars at least regarding the retreat/abandon mechanic.

• I mean, doctrinal tanks have the same chance to be abandoned as regular tanks, why should a mortar call-in have different retreat/abandon mechanics than regular mortars?

• I think the fact that it has 6 men should already make it hard enough to kill. The last guy wheeling it away is imho just a bit too much.

Jump back to quoted post7 Sep 2013, 18:32 PMSpetznova

I keep hearing the argument that it's unreasonable for one man to carry that mortar - but to fix that "problem" they would actually need to change the animation itself. But moreover, why should we care about soldiers lifting more than is realistically possible? If we did, the AT guns would be damn near immobile.

Jump back to quoted post9 Sep 2013, 11:39 AMalexshiro

Why would they need to change the animation? Just make it run away if there's 1 guy left, I don't see what the animation has to do with it.

I think it's power is good (unless RNG decides to screw either player), but it should die like other mortars and come out later, at 2 or 3 cp.

Jump back to quoted post9 Sep 2013, 08:32 AMMauser

They might have to change the animation yes, would it be that difficult? I know realism isn't all that important and AT guns are very heavy. However, I am just curious to whether they consciously decided to make the 120mm mortar that surviveable or not. It does have a lot of killing power, and can shoot across half the map, and the vet ability is very deadly. It might be expensive and take a lot of popcap, but isn't this already accounted for with its range/power? Should it have an extra man as well? It just makes it too hard to steal. Even a pak 43 emplacement is easier to de-crew.

Jump back to quoted post9 Sep 2013, 22:06 PMOmega_Warrior

I'm sure the developers who would be in charge of that are most likely making new content.

Jump back to quoted post9 Sep 2013, 22:13 PMtuvok

Maybe whining Germans can get a £10 DLC that makes 120mm retreat with 2 men then

Jump back to quoted post9 Sep 2013, 22:06 PMOmega_Warrior

Yes, it would actually be difficult to change the animation. I have yet to see a game come out with a new animation in a after game patch. Changing stats is a lot different then making new animations and I'm sure the developers who would be in charge of that are most likely making new content.