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Obviously, but if you are(using completely random, but not rare example), say rank 1200 brit, your opinion is that tommies and brens underperform. And VonIvan says they overperform.
Now, which opinion should we disregard here?
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It probably falls under both actually, depending how you classify "player A is not entitled to have an opinion because player A is not a highly ranked player". It is both an attack on the person's credibility, as well as a refutal of the "Player A is entitled to an opinion" argument, which is not what is being discussed.
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Quite simply test what they are saying and form an opinion of your own. One does not have to take the word others when one can test for himself.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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When someone says they're "entitled to an opinion" what are they actually saying? If you take it literally it's completely absurd. There's no way to stop someone from having an opinion. You can prevent them from expressing it, sure. But preventing someone from having an opinion? The very notion is just silly. You might as well say you're entitled to think.
But when balancing the game you're not after people's opinions, you're after sound judgements of unit performance. And how do you decide who's judgement to trust?
And this basic empyrical evidence will provide a support for the thesis that accuracy and correctness of opinion on the jubject is directly correlated to ones knowledge of the subject or in this case, skill as well therefore rank, which is an indicator of skill.
It does not mean top Players are always right, but rock bottom 4v4 players are quite often wrong in comparison.
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Who's opinion should we listen to? Ullumulu or HelpingHans?
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Once more you to do not have to trust someone. This is not court where someone credibility affects weather a court has take their testimony on event as true or not.
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Sure you do.
Take the claim, "the Soviet Sniper overperforms in high level 2v2."
I can't test this myself.
What I can do is ask a wide range of high level 2v2 players and see if their answers line up.
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Who's opinion should we listen to? Ullumulu or HelpingHans?
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When someone says they're "entitled to an opinion" what are they actually saying?
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When someone says they're "entitled to an opinion" what are they actually saying? ...
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I mean they are allowed to have their opinion considered. Obviously they're allowed to express it.
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How do you disallow someone from considering someone else's opinion?
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By saying "This player sucks don't listen to him"?. And it's not about disallowing someone else from considering opinions it's about you yourself not listening to them.
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If I respond to a comment with "This player sucks don't listen to him" I'm not preventing anyone from listening to them. I'd be expressing the opinion (in a rather crude way) that they shouldn't.
If someone responds to your post with "my rank is higher therefore I'm right" what difference does it make? Players who distrust your judgement on balance because your rank is too low will do so anyway. Players who agree with you based on the merits of your argument aren't going to change their minds on the basis of someone saying "lol what a noob."
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You are also being rude to someone you do not actually know for no good. Focus on what he is actually saying instead of who he is.
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If your balance assessment in any way draws on your own personal ingame experience then your assessment is influenced by your skill level.
Your rank is a measure of your skill level and your rank is therefore relevant as a measure of how reliable your balance assessment is.
If your balance assessment is in no way based on your ingame experience then your playercard isn't relevant.
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Bulling someone because you do not agreed with his opinion is wrong, undemocratical and counter productive. If someone is so wrong it should be simple to come with a logical argument to respond to his reasoning.
Lets me try to explain this to you with an example: 2 players start playing the game at the same time. Player A like competition so he check what the current meta is and learn who to play it.
Player B is player who likes to play a game and have fun and like to learn things. He check the stat of units and tries using all of them.
Obviously player A manages a higher ladder position but his opinion can hardly be considered better since his knowledge of the game is limited and he has not actually tried to see what thing work and do not work and why.
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Rank is not a measure of skill level. It is as simple as that and thus rank is irrelevant.
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In that case we simply disagree on this.
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Rank is not a measure of skill level. It is as simple as that and thus rank is irrelevant.
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