Balance 2018 2vs2

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 06:25 AMTheGentlemenTroll

I mean logically their would have to be adjustments to the Bren and Bar if they could only equip one. If they are left as is atm then they would be underpowered upgrades

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 11:55 AMMittens

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Honestly if these people wanna look at good versatility and effectiveness as a basic mainline unit, idk why we haven't looked into the volks STGs, with free tech nades, long range, and close range upgrade on par if not better than double bar.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 11:23 AMWiking

If you want to take away double upgrade, then take away the need to upgrade weapons rack and just allow squad upgrade the weapon in the field just for muni, just like ANY other Axis infantry

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 09:35 AMKasarov

In that sense, one would have to comb through all infantry squads to reduce their slots. Don't forget that Grens can pick up another MG42, Obers another MG34, Sappers another Bren if they are lucky. Simply tuning the weapon racks to have a requirement of the purchasing squad not having the weapon would be a much easier solution, both in implementation and in explanation (to defeat the scope monster)

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 06:25 AMTheGentlemenTroll

I mean logically their would have to be adjustments to the Bren and Bar if they could only equip one. If they are left as is atm then they would be underpowered upgrades

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 11:55 AMMittens

I don't understand the point of nerfing bar/bren if we simply want to keep the damage the same, its rather redundant tbh.

Why would we nerf allied infantry when the Rifle section already loses to a Gren squad in almost all engagements outside of medium range with double bren.

Rifle squads are squishy as hell and the 5th man drops as you close to medium range anyways + you'll lose effectiveness as he drops+your weapons aren't as good at long range as gren.


Honestly if these people wanna look at good versatility and effectiveness as a basic mainline unit, idk why we haven't looked into the volks STGs, with free tech nades, long range, and close range upgrade on par if not better than double bar.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 12:28 PMblvckdream

Double Bar Riflemen rape LMG Grens at anything but max range. STG Volks are not up to the task of fighting any Allied infantry other than conscripts without PPSH. They are still ok but dont scale well anymore. Your post seems very biased.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 12:30 PMmondeogaming1

4 or 5 volks with stgs vetted with officer unstoptable to USF

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 12:36 PMblvckdream

That´s complete and utter non-sense... 5 Volks are stoppable by getting 5 Riflemen...Thats all you have to do lol

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 12:37 PMEsxile

Nop if they use their unlock free tech flamnade.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 13:21 PMLago

The flame grenade on the Volksgrenadier isn't locked behind tech. The Panzerfaust is.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 12:36 PMblvckdream

That´s complete and utter non-sense... 5 Volks are stoppable by getting 5 Riflemen...Thats all you have to do lol

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 13:22 PMblvckdream

So? What does that matter in a regular fight between Volks and Riflemen?

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 13:32 PMLago

People keep calling it a "free tech grenade" and I feel pedantic today.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 12:36 PMblvckdream

That´s complete and utter non-sense... 5 Volks are stoppable by getting 5 Riflemen...Thats all you have to do lol

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2018, 08:57 AMEsxile

Except I didn't say play Allied if you don't want to deal with better scaling infantry. I say if you want to play scaling infantry instead of elite infantry, play Allied.

Riflemen 1BAR are not equal to an infantry that cost less, deal better damage and have access to free unlock grenades. And then you don't answer the question, what do they do vs elite infantry?