Possible map 1v1 removal

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 04:27 AMkonfucius

What's the difference between Kholodny Ferma winter and summer now? Seems just two reskins of the same map

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 06:15 AMDonnieChan

LOSTGLIDER IN AND SEMOISKY OUT, WOW THIS COMMUNITY IS REALLY DOOMED

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 04:27 AMkonfucius

What's the difference between Kholodny Ferma winter and summer now? Seems just two reskins of the same map

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 00:49 AMferwiner

The maps in the poll are all pretty good and I would not like any of them removed. Of course some are better than others, but I think that automatch maps do not have enough variety as of now, which also somewhat breaks ballance discussions.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2018, 23:03 PMLuciano

Hey guys, i've asked Relic if we could get more vetoes in 1v1 and they said that it is not possible because the amount of vetoes are code attached to the amount of maps. So they told me that there is possibility that they could remove 1 map from the 1v1 map poll so we have a extra veto. I would like you guys to vote and know what map do you think guys would be better to be remove. If its possible tell why.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 10:07 AMSturmpanther

Welcome in my world Luciano

I had this problem too for the last big patch.
About how much to kick out and or vetosystem etc.


As ae said: 5 maps in 1vs1 in coh1. Hm.
I don't play main focused 1vs1. But in teamgames from 2vs2-4vs4 I like to see different maps. I would get bored to play every single day the same 5 maps tbh.
So i am wondering, if that would not be the case for the main 1vs1 players too.
Don't forget:
Automatch is kind of for fun. Customgame/ Cup is for tryhard. Thats why we have in cups only 5-7 maps in 1vs1 cups, which is fine.

But maybe i am wrong and most of the 1vs1 players don't want to have variety. I just can speak for myself.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 10:32 AMskemshead

Its amazing how some people who have influence in this game put variety over quality. Guess that explains how we got the shit show that was the last patch.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 10:32 AMskemshead

On topic, if a map has high veto rate then it should be removed. For me personally, I have not played Semosky in years and that will not change with recent patch changes. I will never unveto that map for the sake of variety.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 10:40 AMSturmpanther

I see so you want the status back before DBP was? So i should tell Relic to put in all removed maps back, right?


That is really sad to hear that you not even tried(more then 1 time plaiyng it) the reworked maps. Sorry but that is only sad.

And ofc is quality important. Tho automatchmaking should make fun too. There is a reason why we have in cups way less maps in the mappool.

Look at the matchmaking: When there are way less maps but still vetos. Not everyone like balanced maps, also some maps are in favoured for axis/ allies. have fun to find a game. When allies ban an axis map and axis an allies map and you have less maps

Don't forget there is a mappoolrotation in this system. You maybe noticed it already, when you play much and often that you get on some days almost only the same map again and again. And on another day you get this map never.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 09:22 AMLuke_512

Having duplicates of maps doesn't add variety mechanically. Sure, you get different visuals and all but summer/winter versions of maps that are almost identical or even worse than the counterpart don't add anything to the table. If there's two copies of a map I don't want to play, that takes up two vetos for me instead of one.

Voted Semoisky summer because of how choke-y and garrison-heavy it is, but it could have also been Road to Kharkov for how narrow and long it is and the disparities between the two sides, especially for the cutoffs.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 00:42 AMAndy_RE

Hey all,

Just a quick heads up. We would have to look at our in-house data before making a decision on actually removing a map. Your votes will point us towards which data to investigate, but we can't guarantee removing one.

Why?

Most of the players here skew toward the top end of the multiplayer pool. We have to look at the data for everyone and confirm this map is unpopular across the board.

Thanks all.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 10:07 AMSturmpanther

I don't play main focused 1vs1. But in teamgames from 2vs2-4vs4 I like to see different maps. I would get bored to play every single day the same 5 maps tbh.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2018, 16:36 PMvasa1719

Why need remove maps, add vetos.