OKW late or early game faction?What made them powerful?

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2018, 07:00 AMCptOps

Brute force you said? Allies Vet3=>better then OKW vet 5 if all you infantry (mostly just volk if you even get there) and let not talk about the weakness in Tank and Indirect fire of the OWK.Just do this comparison
Vet 5 Volk vs Vet 3 Shock
Vet 5 Volk vs Vet 3 Rifle fully armed
Vet 5 Volk vs Vet 3 Section with Bren and sniping LMG + Lee–Enfield.
Vet 5 Volk only win vs Vet 3 Penal and yet it is still a long shot sometime.
the rest like Paratrooper,Ranger,......Concript?Concript can't win right?Right?
Easier way to fix give OKW a doctrial that allow for a TigerI call in for the late game, need some sort of heavy tank that can stand their ground and support infantry.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2018, 17:47 PMTobis

OKW isn't strong in the lategame anymore.
- OKW popcap is way too high on some units
- vetted upgraded allied basic infantry are superior to OKW infantry, and compete with OKW elites
- allied tank destroyers are better than OKW tanks, combined with the infantry superiority
- weak indirect
- pretty meh doctrines

All combined to make OKW pretty underwhelming in the lategame. OKW is pretty much disadvantaged at everything useful in the lategame. It's really not that weak in each area, but they all add up to be pretty underwhelming. I look forward to the next patch, it really wont need to change much to fix it.

This is from 1v1 standpoint, I don't know about team games.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2018, 07:00 AMCptOps

Brute force you said? Allies Vet3=>better then OKW vet 5 if all you infantry (mostly just volk if you even get there) and let not talk about the weakness in Tank and Indirect fire of the OWK.Just do this comparison
Vet 5 Volk vs Vet 3 Shock
Vet 5 Volk vs Vet 3 Rifle fully armed
Vet 5 Volk vs Vet 3 Section with Bren and sniping LMG + Lee–Enfield.
Vet 5 Volk only win vs Vet 3 Penal and yet it is still a long shot sometime.
the rest like Paratrooper,Ranger,......Concript?Concript can't win right?Right?
Easier way to fix give OKW a doctrial that allow for a TigerI call in for the late game, need some sort of heavy tank that can stand their ground and support infantry.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2018, 20:55 PMKatitof

Sure, but its not my argument, but what modders stated.
If you want OKW to become wehr with trucks, sorry but that isn't going to happen.
Work with what you have, because you're not getting anything else.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2018, 12:27 PMKatitof

OKW got 6-7 types of infantry. None of them is builder only or narrow specialist, all of them perform well in combat in different, but not specialist limited situations.
What makes you believe OKW was meant to be carried on the backs of volks alone?

Volks are axis cons, they will carry you through the early and early mid game, but they are not going to compete against much more expensive squads with much more expensive weapon upgrades, so use your own elite infantry.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2018, 07:00 AMCptOps

Brute force you said? Allies Vet3=>better then OKW vet 5 if all you infantry (mostly just volk if you even get there) and let not talk about the weakness in Tank and Indirect fire of the OWK.Just do this comparison
Vet 5 Volk vs Vet 3 Shock
Vet 5 Volk vs Vet 3 Rifle fully armed
Vet 5 Volk vs Vet 3 Section with Bren and sniping LMG + Lee–Enfield.
Vet 5 Volk only win vs Vet 3 Penal and yet it is still a long shot sometime.
the rest like Paratrooper,Ranger,......Concript?Concript can't win right?Right?
Easier way to fix give OKW a doctrial that allow for a TigerI call in for the late game, need some sort of heavy tank that can stand their ground and support infantry.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2018, 12:27 PMKatitof

OKW got 6-7 types of infantry. None of them is builder only or narrow specialist, all of them perform well in combat in different, but not specialist limited situations.
What makes you believe OKW was meant to be carried on the backs of volks alone?

Volks are axis cons, they will carry you through the early and early mid game, but they are not going to compete against much more expensive squads with much more expensive weapon upgrades, so use your own elite infantry.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2018, 20:47 PMFelinewolfie

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Panther is much more expensive than T34/76! It should never lose to one!
Grenadiers are much cheaper than USF Riflemen, Penals, Guards, Shock Troops, UKF Infantry Section.
Why is it that they want to dominate easily while still being much less expensive?