It misses 3 out of 4 shots when using it´s barage.
It´s over nerfed.
USF Mortar
21 Jan 2018, 00:05 AM
#1
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21 Jan 2018, 00:22 AM
#2
Posts: 611
I could say same thing about numerous units.
This is the reason why cancers grow in this game.
Usf morter is more than fine as is.
This is the reason why cancers grow in this game.
Usf morter is more than fine as is.
21 Jan 2018, 00:27 AM
#3
Posts: 162
It's just rng. In one game I had one mortar that won me all engagements and even the match.
21 Jan 2018, 00:45 AM
#4
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Posts: 1276
I wouldn't mind it being a little more accurate
The range as well as its pack up time to be rather fair.
21 Jan 2018, 01:39 AM
#5
Posts: 1158
It sucks
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
21 Jan 2018, 01:48 AM
#6
Posts: 611
Anyone who wants to whine about usf morter sucking should go play ost and see how utterly annoying and repetitive playing against usf mortar is.
The strength of the usf mortar , aside from it being almost unkillable due to lightning pack up speed is the continual pressure it can apply. People often ignore the fact that a half health gren squad will loose any engagement and risk being wiped. Same goes for the mg. The mortar may not get the kills but it often does significant damage and either forces the opposing squad from the field or gives a flanking double bars squad a huge advantage.
Stop focusing on its weakness and instead look to its strengths.
The strength of the usf mortar , aside from it being almost unkillable due to lightning pack up speed is the continual pressure it can apply. People often ignore the fact that a half health gren squad will loose any engagement and risk being wiped. Same goes for the mg. The mortar may not get the kills but it often does significant damage and either forces the opposing squad from the field or gives a flanking double bars squad a huge advantage.
Stop focusing on its weakness and instead look to its strengths.
21 Jan 2018, 10:58 AM
#7
Posts: 503 | Subs: 1
It misses 3 out of 4 shots when using it´s barage.
It´s over nerfed.
I had a game where Vet 0 ZIS Gun penetrated KT frontal armour 4 times in a row.
Does that make ZIS gun OP?
21 Jan 2018, 11:08 AM
#8
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Posts: 871
USF mortar is fine, aside from the poor range.
@skemshead I would suggest you play against the ost mortar before commenting on the usf mortar.
@skemshead I would suggest you play against the ost mortar before commenting on the usf mortar.
21 Jan 2018, 11:24 AM
#9
Posts: 611
USF mortar is fine, aside from the poor range.
@skemshead I would suggest you play against the ost mortar before commenting on the usf mortar.
Maybe you should try playing ost and see how annoying playing against mortars is, with 4 man sqauds.
21 Jan 2018, 11:45 AM
#10
10 Posts: 871
Maybe you should try playing ost and see how annoying playing against mortars is, with 4 man sqauds.
Ah you mean like playing as brits forced into cover vs ost mortar?
I've played Ost loads this patch. Looks like you have only played Ost.....
21 Jan 2018, 12:53 PM
#11
Posts: 587
USF mortar is fine, aside from the poor range.
@skemshead I would suggest you play against the ost mortar before commenting on the usf mortar.
Usf mortar has ost mortar scatter vs smaller sqauds.
I suggest you look up stats before making any statements.
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
21 Jan 2018, 12:58 PM
#12
10 Posts: 871
Usf mortar has ost mortar scatter vs smaller sqauds.
I suggest you look up stats before making any statements.
I'm well aware of the stats, but the Ost mortar still has 80 range while the USF mortar does not. Additionally, match ups exist outside of Ost vs USF. As I already stated, the Ost mortar vs 4 man brit squads who require cover to perform to their fullest, get slaughtered by the Ost mortar due to being bunched up. Also USF mortar can fire against 5 and 6 man squads from both Ost and OKW. Comparing them in a narrow minded way is false.
21 Jan 2018, 13:19 PM
#13
Posts: 587
I'm well aware of the stats, but the Ost mortar still has 80 range while the USF mortar does not. Additionally, match ups exist outside of Ost vs USF. As I already stated, the Ost mortar vs 4 man brit squads who require cover to perform to their fullest, get slaughtered by the Ost mortar due to being bunched up. Also USF mortar can fire against 5 and 6 man squads from both Ost and OKW. Comparing them in a narrow minded way is false.
Name one non-doc 5/6 man axis sqaud that isn"t volks.
Ye, lovely that eh?
And the range is compensated by the set-up time (you can dodge nades with that thing, it's hilarious).
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
21 Jan 2018, 14:50 PM
#14
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What about a UKF Mortar?
22 Jan 2018, 04:17 AM
#15
Posts: 5279
What about a UKF Mortar?
I think its that 400mp autofire hole in the ground thats able to tank a sturmtiger rocket and could even when medium tanks couldnt. Could be wrong tho
#stalinwept
22 Jan 2018, 07:35 AM
#16
Posts: 1740
Do not touch a perfectly fine unit. I have had wipes with the USF mortar and I had shells that missed by a long shot. Absolutely not a single problem here.
It is though God by command has withdrawn every other throne.
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
22 Jan 2018, 11:57 AM
#17
Posts: 563
i think the point of it is to be just placeholder. It does the duty of mortar if you need it, but its not great at its job. As usf was not originally meant to have mortar.
"Pain is almost euphoric sam!"
22 Jan 2018, 11:58 AM
#18
Posts: 3145 | Subs: 2
I think its that 400mp autofire hole in the ground thats able to tank a sturmtiger rocket and could even when medium tanks couldnt. Could be wrong tho
What about this mortar: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=679152285
22 Jan 2018, 13:09 PM
#19
Posts: 4474
"i thanks mr smith of the idea" lol really mr smith what were u smoking ?
What about this mortar: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=679152285
katitof-2018
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Katitof-2018
22 Jan 2018, 15:49 PM
#20
1 Posts: 1276
Maybe you should try playing ost and see how annoying playing against mortars is, with 4 man sqauds.
This is a poor argument for sure ill take it.
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Basically
TLDR: OST Mortar ROF bypass its "downsides" of low accuracy because it fires 2x the amount of shells leading it to gain vet faster only making better. Its high ROF also gives it a high chance of hitting larger squads (thus nullifying your "Muh 4 man squads) and a higher chance for squad wipes.
USF mortar in theory needs a scatter/accuracy change but the range and pack up time are a fair con of the unit.
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