Helping Hans deleted Coh2 cause of allie biased patch

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 19:37 PMSturmpanther

Hans is already streaming coh2 again

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 21:19 PMullumulu

did he play axis?

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 19:41 PMPuppetmaster

2 Days, impressive.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 11:20 AMskemshead

The problem is not even remotely the same. Guards last past were lacklustre at best vs infantry and average against vehicles, and that is why they were almost never seen. Now they are strong vs infantry and vehicles and as such are present in at least 70% of all sov builds(IME).

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 22:46 PMsherlock

You quoted the patch notes and should know that their performance against vehicles was not effected The build was though to beat before the patch and it still is now.

I'm not sure if nerfing guards ai would be helpful since then the unit goes back to not being used besides the people that specifically want to go for that strat. A better route would be to have a one man/woman sniper and limit the guards' slow ability to anything above light vehicles (excluding them) or remove it. That way it is possible to dive with light vehicles to chase a sniper down.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 22:46 PMsherlock

You quoted the patch notes and should know that their performance against vehicles was not effected The build was though to beat before the patch and it still is now.

I'm not sure if nerfing guards ai would be helpful since then the unit goes back to not being used besides the people that specifically want to go for that strat. A better route would be to have a one man/woman sniper and limit the guards' slow ability to anything above light vehicles (excluding them) or remove it. That way it is possible to dive with light vehicles to chase a sniper down.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 23:22 PMskemshead

All changes are always included in patch notes aren't they. Only mods can answer for sure, and I was unaware of any At changes until watching tightrope stream last night and he said deflection damage was too high on guards and from in game performance that looked to be true.

However, the real issue is how good guards are at AI because it gives soviets a very solid unit composition with very few weaknesses. Soviets have more than enough AI options with penals/ppsh cons/LV's and as such do not need their AT infantry to also be solid AI.

There is a very good reason why guards are so prevalent this patch and its not solely Guard/Sniper synergy.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 02:26 AMKpen97

After reading this thread seeing people trying to twist other peoples opinions and people voicing their opinions; think its time to voice mine.

I have sub to hans for almost 2 years now, have watched him for almost 4 years. Watching the vod back of the 2v2 matches tenshi and hans played to see what happened showed me somethings that lead to hans ultimate downfall. The sniping of Lmctx and price deff lead to this, But this shows how much time they invested into the new patch to see what build order and strat is the most effective in the new meta which still isn't set in stone yet. They way tenshi and hans countered this strat wasn't successful, the stuka su fus hans built had gotten no vet up until 30 minute mark that was a waste and yes it is hard to bomb snipers with it. tenshi's knowledge on coh2 cheese isn't there as he mainly mains axis factions which can hinder counterplay vs allies, picked the wrong commander and units. Hans picked breakthrough its an okay commander but vs allied cheese fussis won't cut it and JT can be countered by allied tank spam.

My opinion here is hans overreacted and made darma out of something that normally happens to most streamers, i remember one stream where Barton and price sniped hans, hans steam m8 drops the match and hans solo wins the match vs USF calliope and soviet cheese "OLD PATCH". Tenshi reacted in the proper way, with his professional background in cast and production for streams in the Starcraft community, tenshi mannered himself well but played poorly.

In the end if hans has officially stopped playing coh2 for the foreseeable future or any relic game, his stream channel could die which isn't the best thing, but that's the hast reality of this.

That's my response to this darma fest.

Now for people who want to twist this post around and try to use it against me like what Phoenix101 did to Lenny12346, clearly didn't know who Lenny is in this community. You'll just make yourself look silly trying to defame or twist the truth. If someone does it to me, Ill call you out.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 07:00 AMRubberluck

Why is this thread even a thing? What's the point in getting so wrapped up in whether Hans uninstalled or not? He rage quit; big deal, we all do that from time to time. If you're in the category where you think the game isn't fair, a simple solution exists: don't play it. And if you're still playing, well -- get back to searching for your next match. All this extra speculation is a waste of time.

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2018, 22:42 PMZansibar

I like how he calls the sniper/guards combo op and that that game is balanced because of it when they werent even changed

Jump back to quoted post14 Jan 2018, 00:46 AMGrumpy

So is the balance restored now that Hans is back?

Jump back to quoted post14 Jan 2018, 05:30 AMRosbone

Yes. Hans is back. So now we will only receive half the bad RNG we used to. Hans, our savior will take the rest

Jump back to quoted post14 Jan 2018, 00:46 AMGrumpy

So is the balance restored now that Hans is back?

Jump back to quoted post14 Jan 2018, 00:46 AMGrumpy

So is the balance restored now that Hans is back?